Just to clarify.  Does that mean if I fire a query :

UPDATE sp
SET sp.RetailPrice = sp.RetailPrice * 1.1
FROM StockPrice sp

Would I be charged the same regardless of whether StockPrice had 100
rows or 1,000,000 rows ?


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Steven Nagy <steven.n...@readify.net> wrote:
> UPDATE still is a transaction, some data gets sent, some gets received.
> So there is definitely a charge, but it is probably miniscule.
>
>
> Steven Nagy
> Readify | Senior Developer
> M: +61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com 
> [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of ross
> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 3:16 PM
> To: ozAzure
> Subject: Re: Azure in Australia
>
> I'm on / watching this list, so that makes 4 at least.
>
> Does SQL Azure incur compute charges? eg.  If I run an update
> statement that doesn't transfer any data, will I incur any charges?
>
> It is pure speculation, but perhaps full text search would be
> expensive for Microsoft to host and therefore expensive for the
> consumer?
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Greg Willis <gwil...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Great to see some lively discussion starting up here.  If I can see evidence
>> there is more than 3 of us on this list I'll definitely ask a few more folk
>> from the Windows Azure and SQL Azure product teams to sign-up for good
>> measure :-)
>>
>> I think it's fair to say that SQL Azure is still optimized for some
>> scenarios (web, smaller application and ISV workloads) over others right
>> now.   I think it's also fair to say they are adding in functionality at a
>> decent rate (50GB size instances coming, spatial etc).   There is still also
>> a lot I'd like to see added in to open up more scenarios.
>>
>> I have certainly worked with few product teams that could claim to be more
>> feedback focused and driven than the Windows Azure and SQL Azure teams - so
>> please use this site (and lists like this one) and let them know what you
>> think is lacking: http://www.mygreatsqlazureidea.com
>>
>> Darren - 235 of your closest friends have currently voted for full-text
>> search support.
>>
>> The product planning guys in the teams look straight to these sites as one
>> key pulse of what people want to see next / the most.
>>
>> There is also the same for Windows Azure:
>> http://mygreatwindowsazureidea.com (and "Dalllas', Windows Azure platform
>> AppFabric etc)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Willis
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] on
>> behalf of Darren Neimke [darren.nei...@live.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 3:26 PM
>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>>
>> My "beefs"... personally, there are parts of the product that I would like
>> to see improved at a rate that is faster than the current rate.  Service
>> Management (inc. monitoring and reporting) is an example of such an area.
>> There should be a recognition that the current maturity level of the product
>> "is what it is" and that as such, as a consumer of such a service you can,
>> from time to time, experience frustrations in using such a service:
>>     http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlazure/archive/2010/03/22/9982979.aspx
>> I understand that, to mature such a product requires an effort in terms of
>> not only software and systems development, but also importantly in
>> marketing, documentation, and support services as well.  And to raise the
>> maturity level from where it currently sits will take some time.
>> It is some of these issues - and through concentrated use of the service and
>> its features - that I have experienced some dissatisfaction.
>> Our mileage may vary! :-)
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Darren Neimke
>> darren.nei...@live.com
>> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: steven.n...@readify.net
>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:14:50 -0700
>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>>
>> I totally agree! I’m just asking.. what are your beefs?
>>
>> One of mine is that SQL Azure is not so much designed for scale out where
>> the other services are.
>>
>> Its almost like SQL Azure is after a completely different market of
>> consumer, which might be true.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven Nagy
>> Readify | Senior Developer
>>
>> M: +61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com
>> [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 2:03 PM
>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>>
>>
>>
>>>>  Greg, do you think we can get some involvement from them here?
>>
>> More engagement is always a good thing - especially within AU.
>>
>>
>>
>> And in re-reading your opening couple of sentences there Steve (heck... I
>> thought you were a blue badge for a second there mate! :)) let's keep an
>> open mind about the quality of the system that we are experiencing.  Let's
>> not be afraid to make critical assessments as to the state of play.  And
>> let's all play together for the betterment of the product.
>>
>>
>>
>> It's in nobody's interest - especially a product evangelist's - for us to be
>> shills and simply pretend that everything is fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> At the end of the day I'd ask myself this... how much of my own money (mine
>> or my businesses) am I likely to put on the table for Azure.  And what needs
>> to improve before that amount might be increased.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Darren Neimke
>> darren.nei...@live.com
>> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: steven.n...@readify.net
>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:40:21 -0700
>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>>
>> Hi Darren,
>>
>>
>>
>> There are many ways in which to supply feedback to the team. Currently you
>> can ‘request features’ and the team also has had online open chat sessions
>> before. I’ve found these sessions to be very telling because a lot of cloud
>> enthusiasts have really pushed hard on certain issues. I’m not sure if
>> anyone from the development teams are actually on this list (like Jim,
>> Steve, etc) but would be nice if they were. Greg, do you think we can get
>> some involvement from them here?
>>
>>
>>
>> And Darren, what exactly is your perception of how things have gone? I’d
>> like to see how it aligns with my own, given I haven’t been to a PDC or MIX
>> and my only contact mechanism with the team is through social media.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Steven Nagy
>> Readify | Senior Developer
>>
>> M: +61 404 044 513 | E: steven.n...@readify.net | B: azure.snagy.name
>>
>>
>>
>> From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com
>> [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 1:36 PM
>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>>
>>
>>
>> In all seriousness though Greg, I think that some more transparency about
>> some of this stuff could have helped, and not hindered the perception of how
>> certain things have gone by people such as myself.  At the end of the day,
>> is there discussion about these things within the realm of the social media
>> - yes; but is that *the* appropriate medium for communicating to your target
>> audience about the state of the product... probably not.
>>
>>
>>
>> And on the topic of help, if there are genuine areas in which you guys need
>> any help or feedback *and* you are prepared to deal with the feedback in a
>> transparent and honest manner... then I'm always available.  As I always
>> say... my supply of opinions is nearly limitless!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Darren Neimke
>> darren.nei...@live.com
>> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: darren.nei...@live.com
>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:56:10 -0700
>>
>> Oh I don't want to actually *do* any work... I just want to express my right
>> to complain about the work of others :-)
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Darren Neimke
>> darren.nei...@live.com
>> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: gwil...@microsoft.com
>>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:20:30 +0000
>>>
>>> Full-text search is not currently supported in SQL Azure. It is planned in
>>> future releases.
>>> One of the first places to watch for confirm of new functionality in the
>>> SQL Azure releases is the team blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/ssds/
>>>
>>> They are also recruiting Darren so you can go and help them finish the job
>>> ☺
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Greg Willis
>>> Email: gwil...@microsoft.com
>>>
>>> From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com
>>> [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Darren Neimke
>>> Sent: Thursday, 1 April 2010 10:58 AM
>>> To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>>> Subject: RE: Azure in Australia
>>>
>>> Thanks Greg, it's good to see that you guys are taking the time to present
>>> the information in a more understandable format.  It would have been nice if
>>> you'd finished building it before you started charging for it though.
>>>
>>> Also, if I click on the Products tab I get some nice marketing information
>>> about each product, but it's not easy to see what specific features I am or
>>> am not getting.  If I look at the SQL Azure product sheet it's not clear as
>>> to what functionality is included.  For example is Full Text Search included
>>> yet - the Wikipedia page talks about search being included but it wasn't
>>> there when I last used the product back in December.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Darren Neimke
>>> darren.nei...@live.com
>>> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > From: gwil...@microsoft.com
>>> > To: ozazure@lists.codify.com
>>> > Subject: Azure in Australia
>>> > Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:39:32 +0000
>>> >
>>> > As we’re apparently lacking Azure content for this list (☺) you might be
>>> > interested to know Azure will be available for Australia just after 
>>> > Easter.
>>> > You can see all of the ways you can get access after release here:
>>> > http://www.windowsazure.com/offers and local AUD pricing.
>>> >
>>> > Greg Willis
>>> > Windows Azure Evangelism Lead, Microsoft Australia
>>> > Email: gwil...@microsoft.com   Twitter: @gwillis
>>> > Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/gwillis
>>> > LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/gwillis
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