On 1 October 2010 14:43, silky <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:29 PM, David Burstin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > This article:
> >
> >
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19520-random-numbers-created-out-of-nothing.html
> > sounds interesting, but being Friday, I was wanting to hear the thoughts
> of
> > those who know much more about this kind of stuff than I do. (That means
> > you, Silky et al)
>
> Yeah, I don't know much about this specifically.
>
> All I really know[2] is this implementation of a similar technology:
>
> http://www.idquantique.com/true-random-number-generator/products-overview.html
>
> But it's interesting to note[1], as with almost any cryptographic
> system, the biggest issue is implementation-based attacks (i.e. side
> channel attacks and the recent padding oracle).
>
> It's cool though, and I don't know enough about the physics of it to
> really have any useful opinions. But it's probably interesting, from a
> cryptography point of view, to wonder what is better: numbers from an
> unknown source, or numbers from "known" sources with "known" seeds
> that you can just combine in an unknown way.
>
> I'd probably only feel comfortable with it once I knew how it works,
> so it's something to look into I suppose. Few relevant links:
>  - http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.3512
>  - http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/25355/?nlid=3170
>
>
>

> [1]  http://www.physorg.com/news202139419.html
> [2] From my presentation on QKD:
> http://www.programmingbranch.com/presentations/
>


Or there's the more achievable random numbers thru lava lamps


http://www.lavarnd.org/what/how-it-works.html


-- 
Meski

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