I have to agree with what you're saying about flicking between apps. And you've got a tablet - it's even harder with a mouse!
As far as I can tell, you have to go so close to the left border of the desktop and then it seems to only show the previous view/app you were using. I would have thought it would show all the apps that you currently have activated (but are probably suspended) allowing you to slide between the various apps. Also, it took me a while to figure out that the start button was still available because it was so far down in the bottom left corner that I'm surprised I actually stumbled across it with the mouse. I know it's early days and it's designed for touch - but I'm worried it's going to upset a lot of people if they don't work out how to make that more intuitive. There's is a lot of existing hardware that it's going to have to run on that is not touch ready. T. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Burela Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2011 5:54 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8 For those wanting to play with it inside a virtual machine, i'd recommend you instead boot directly into Win8 as a VHD instead. Here is a guide from Scott Hanselman http://www.hanselman.com/blog/GuideToInstallingAndBootingWindows8DeveloperPr eviewOffAVHDVirtualHardDisk.aspx One of those "annoying things" I'm finding with the new tile interface, is trying to swap from one app to another. You need to keep flicking your finger from the left to cycle through the apps. It makes it really difficult to know if your app is still actually in the back stack, or where exactly it is. I keep flicking through, cycling through twice only to discover that my app isn't open any more, or I keep missing it and need to keep cycling through again. Having a way to switch apps with say, similar to how you can quick switch on iOS would make it so much more functional. -David Burela On 16 September 2011 16:33, Grant Maw <grant....@gmail.com> wrote: No, Win7 64 bit host. x64 Win8 preview. On 16 September 2011 14:36, Winston Pang <winstonp...@gmail.com> wrote: Grant, were you doing it on a 32bit host environment? installing the x64 Win8 preview build? On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Grant Maw <grant....@gmail.com> wrote: To get it working on VirtualBox (assuming you had the same "unexpected error" that I got) you need to do this : In the settings for your virtual box, motherboard tab, make sure you have selected "Enable IO APIC", then on the Processor tab, make sure "Enable PAE/NX" is selected. I have also read somewhere that people are having trouble getting the networking to work properly. I didn't have this issue but the current wisdom for this is to go into settings and on Network-Adapter1-Advanced choose the generic (Intel PRO/1000 MT) network card. Hope that helps Grant On 16 September 2011 14:19, Winston Pang <winstonp...@gmail.com> wrote: Ah, nice, thanks Ken, I was using virtual box, but it crapped itself. So I thought it was across the board. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote: Applications like VMWare Workstation will let you run 64bit VMs even if the host OS is 32bit Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 10:58 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8 Man it totally sucks. I wanted to install x64 on a VM but forgot that my current install of windows is 32bit, so it wont run the Windows 8 x64 version, which is the only version that has the VS2011 express dev tools, GAHHHHHHH And that link requires MSDN subscription only. On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:01 PM, David Kean <david.k...@microsoft.com> wrote: Please also play around with the developer tools, I'd suggest downloading the Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jasonz/archive/2011/09/14/announcing-visual-studio- 11-developer-preview.aspx) over the Express edition. One thing you should be aware of is that we only have a certain amount of time to react to feedback before the Beta - so please, please tell us what you think. Although Windows 8 seems to be getting the most attention, if you use TFS, there's a bunch of goodness in this release which I've been dogfooding for the past 6 months; Agile tools to manage stories and tasks, My Work which is basically a Pending changes on steroids, and a new built-in Code Review tool. From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:23 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8 I installed it on my Asus eee slate last night. First attempt left me in an endless boot loop telling me there was a problem. Maybe it was because I installed it in a pub? Backed up hard drive and formatted it, installing from scratch. Went much better second time. It makes my slate so much nicer to use. Windows 7 was not fantastic for touch input. Windows 8 makes it so much nicer. It gives my slate two modes of use, walk around the house, drive with finger mode (classic tablet) and then keyboard and mouse (bluetooth) to do any desktop stuff. Really fast to shutdown and start up. Its like less than 5 seconds to get to the login screen. Unfortunately my slate has an problem where it just powers off randomly. Hardware issue, it started doing it a week ago and is still doing it. need to send it back for repair :( On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:18 AM, William Luu <will....@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks David. That's one of the better summaries I've read thus far. On 16 September 2011 01:12, David Burela <david.bur...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm surprised there hasn't been any discussion around this on the mailing list yet. I've got some notes about the day 1 & day 2 keynotes <http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/build-keynote-day-1metro-experi ence-with-jupiter-xaml-and-html5js/> http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/build-keynote-day-1metro-experie nce-with-jupiter-xaml-and-html5js/ <http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/build-keynote-day-2windows-serv er-8-and-developer-tools/> http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/build-keynote-day-2windows-serve r-8-and-developer-tools/ Some quick thoughts: Development The new functionality for the immersive apps is cool. The "charms" that allow you to share data between applications (edit an image in an image editor, then have another app directly upload it to twitter) is cool. User account syncing across desktops is also interesting. Syncing combined with the "Credential locker" allows a user to log in to an app on one computer (e.g. using Facebook or Google credentials to log in via the Azure ACS), the credentials are saved in the locker and synced to their other computers. So later if they pick up a tablet and launch the app, they will just be logged in straight away. and it only takes ~3 lines of code. as a desktop The new tile start screen is cool. and the new immersive apps in the metro themed style is cool However I am finding it really frustrating to use it as a general Operating System, as I keep getting mentally confused between the 2 different contexts (Tile interface, classic desktop). I keep hitting start to bring up my list of programs, but that takes you back to the tiles. I also don't see how my traditional multi monitor setup with multitasking is going to work in this world of new "immersive" style apps. Reading a webpage in the chromeless immersive app and then trying to chat with someone on MSN, is a jarring experience. -David Burela
