Perhaps that's a case for corporate Windows 8.

Metro for corp-email/documents

Regular Windows for doing actual dev work

They can control my Metro environment all they like. It's already basically
locked down.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Grant Molloy <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think putting dev's in vm's is a bit a55 about. I work in them at
> current and also in  previous job, and have always been issues, mainly
> having to wait for vm.
>
> They gave me a nice big pd with a quad core with 8gb of ram. Then they
> installed the corporate image on it. Windows XP 32 bit..  Thanks!  Money
> well spent!
>
> Server services commissioned the vm with soe server image, and said "there
> you go. We'll do support until you install anything on it!". So you crack
> it open, install notepad++, and you're not supported.
>
> I've always argued for the soe as a vm, and let me as a developer use the
> hardware you've paid for. After all the soe is for email and office
> documents! Give me Norton Ghost and some storage and my physical pc setup
> will be just as convenient as a backed up vm image.
> On 21/11/2011 11:57 AM, "Ken Schaefer" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A virtualised environment, or separate physical environment, can be used
>> for development purposes. Though I would still hesitate to give developers
>> full admin rights on their actual "work" PC. I.e. you have a regular user
>> account for handling email, browsing the web etc., but then you have access
>> to separate environment (or set of machines) that you can have admin
>> privileges on for doing development work.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
>> Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2011 5:36 AM
>> To: ozDotNet
>> Subject: Re: [Friday OT] unstoppable force meets an immovable object,
>>
>> Damn good counter point. I guess the two cannot exist together, maybe
>> having a separate physically isolated network  only for developers to get
>> the job done and then installing the result on the test machine can keep
>> both happy.
>>
>> On 19 November 2011 01:06, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On the other hand, you just head over to the sysadmin lists and see the
>> admins complaining about how much time is consumed supporting developers
>> who get their machines compromised or otherwise borked. Putting
>> unauthorised networks into an environment is a huge no-no in my book. Most
>> developers do not have the skills or the knowledge to secure a network, let
>> alone know what regulatory/audit requirements the business has. Then, if
>> there is a compromise and corporate IP is stolen, customer information
>> stolen etc. due to ingress via an unauthorized network, who is going to
>> take the rap?
>> >
>>
>

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