See the Facebook Twins case, they are arguing the very thing that Zuck
stole Facebook from them (idea). I guess the difference is he did some work
for them beforehand so ....

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Scott Barnes
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On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Matt Siebert <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Stuart, that makes sense. The contracts didn't cover this stuff in
> detail (a fact that should have raised some flags early on).
>
> A lot of things changed rather suddenly and I didn't have time to
> investigate this as thoroughly as I would have liked.
>
> We have now reached an agreement that satisfies all parties.
>
> Cheers.
>
>
> On Tuesday, 20 December 2011, Stuart Kinnear <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > It really depends on the contract you signed up to, and whether that
> contract was bound to you or extends to organisations that you work for.
> For IP to work it really needs to be tied down to something that can be
> defined well. I suggest investing in a few books from Amazon on the area to
> get a grasp of the things that the legal eagles think of, go to a local
> business advisory centre & take advantage of some free legal advice and
> then, if it is something that that can be screwed down, then get a lawyer
> versed in IP to scrutinise what you signed.
> > Regards, Stuart
> >
> > On 20 December 2011 10:54, Matt Siebert <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm not looking for anything legally binding, but just wondering what
> is generally the case with regards to ideas and IP - are ideas considered
> IP? or does there need to be some specific detail in order to be protected
> by IP law?
> >> For the last 18 months I've been working on a startup with a friend and
> an investor.  My friend has been an employee in the investor's company from
> the start (and years before).  Initially I was contracting my spare time to
> the investor's company to do the proof of concept and later I commenced
> employment with the investor's company in order to work on the new product.
> >> There have been ups and downs and ultimately the startup has suffered
> many losses due to decisions made by the investor against our advice.
>  Right now the sh*t is beginning to hit the fan and my friend and I have
> had enough and are considering leaving and starting our own business in our
> spare time.  We have no intention to do anything legally or morally wrong.
>  We won't be working on the same product we've been working on under the
> investor's company, but my friend had some ideas for future products that
> we would like to use.  These are just ideas with a 1 sentence description
> and no real details.  As such we're unsure where these fall with respect to
> IP laws.
> >> In the end, we're looking for ways forward that benefit all parties,
> but are quite prepared to just walk away if such a solution cannot be
> achieved.
> >> Any advice would be greatly appreciated and I understand it's not
> legally binding or anything.
> >> Cheers.
> >
> >
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