On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Bill McCarthy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> IMO, windows 8 is close, but it could be a lot better. I love the windows
> phone like UI **concept**, and I love the idea of the similarities between
> the different form factors, BUT the current release preview looks to me to
> be designed for content consumption not content creation. Where, for
> example, is My documents gone ?
>
>
I find it paradoxical that we can have threads dealing with 3, 4, 5 large
monitors to cater to an OS that expects a target of, at best tablet size.


> There's some weird divides between "desktop" and "metro" that really only
> make sense to developer geeks who understand these are different runtime
> platforms: but forcing that differentiation onto consumers seems wrong to
> me. Why should they need to care if their app is "metro" or not?  Why do
> running apps all appear when you hit alt+tab, but yet only one subset
> appears in the windows desktop taskbar, and another subset in the "metro"
> taskbar (nb the metro taskbar only shows one of the two apps that are
> running if one of them is docked)
>

It's all about efficient use of large screens.  And Metro just isn't.


>
> I think consumers' reaction will be mixed. Tablet users (especially those
> with windows phones) will like win 8.


Agreed.  If Win8 can handle being 4th to market in a fairly mature
marketplace.  Being third wasn't terribly useful for us.  (disclaimer, this
is not the opinion of my employer, but is personal  - assume this
disclaimer applies to all my comments, actually.)


>  Existing users of win 7 that do a lot
> of content creation are more likely to have that initial negative reaction
> like Greg posted about, one that I've seen a lot of other people express
> too.
>
>
Win7 is adequate or better for desktops, Win 8 is less so.


> I do believe it can be made a lot better. The problem to me seems it's more
> like running "metro" windows with traditional windows in a VM. There needs
> to be better integration..
>
> I really strongly believe that with just a handful of changes the
> experience
> could be a lot better:
>
> 1. Make the start menu screen a pivot app with pivots that include
> "running"
> applications, "My Documents" . (maybe include recent, favourites etc). The
> "running" pivot pane would include all running apps as is currently in the
> ALT+TAB list.
>
> 2. Get rid of the metro left pane taskbar (no longer needed if (1) is
> implemented, and show all apps in the windows desktop taskbar
>
> 3. Allow metro apps to be run in windows !!    That is, allow them to be
> run
> in a sizeable window alongside desktop apps. (via right click menu, and
> allow for that preference to be saved)
>
> 4. Allow for flexible docking. The current "docking" for metro apps is way
> too limited.
>
> 5. Include the start button on the desktop, and when pressed, show the
> metro
> start menu screen but show it as not quite full screen, so as it has the
> appearance of a window (eg top,left at 10, bottom and right in about 20
> then
> add a bit of a drop shadow)
>
>
> There's probably more that could be done to improve integration eg why
> doesn't the DPI settings also update the metro settings instead today you
> have to change metro to "Large" separately and "Large" isn't the same
> slight
> magnification as 125% is; why isn't screen resolution in computer settings,
> instead you have to get to it via desktop or search for control panel etc.
> I
> like the idea of simplification but the current bits feel more like
> duplication.
>
> Anyway, I think win 8 is close, but all the good work done behind the
> scenes
> to make windows 7 better will be lost to negative reactions to the metro
> addition. I'm still hoping they will make some more changes but it doesn't
> look like it from the preview, instead it looks like they are rushing to
> market (realistically only four or so months left to make Christmas for
> retail devices). I haven't given up hope yet though; I'm hoping for a
> windows 8 mango release if worse comes to worse, but will still be sad to
> see so much negative reaction to the first release.
>
>
>
All of theses are somewhat hacks to make it perform like the previous
version.



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