Thank chaps, I'll have to look into Chrome, although I've never previously
allowed it only my work machines because it's like a virus, everything from
Google is like a virus.

I would like to mention that in the previous hour I've been cobbling
together my price-calc html page, I have needed to run a web search on how
to code each individual line: set and get a checkbox, detect textbox
changes, disable a control, set text in a span, etc. all absolutely
fundamental things you need to do. The inconsistency and patternless
quagmire is beyond human endurance. Did the inventors of JavaScript, jQuery
and DOM invent this stuff to hamper the progress of the human race? The
inventors of this mess should be hunted down if they're still alive and
strangled with their own entrails. Examples that need a search for each
line and I find absolutely no consistency at all (the first one is utterly
cryptic):

Is a checkbox checked -- $('chk1').is(':checked')
Set text in a span -- $('#span1').text(thevalue)
Set text in a textbox -- $('$text1').val(something)
Disable a control -- $('radio1').attr('disabled', show)

Even worse, most search results have screenloads of people arguing about
what bit of sample code is correct. There are sometimes 6 suggestions of
how to do a single thing, and 4 of them don't work. The official jQuery API
server is offline which makes my experience even better. I'm sure I'll feel
better once I can see some sort of pattern in the jQuery/DOM chaos.

Greg K

On 9 July 2013 13:04, Jorke Odolphi <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Chrome has by far the best debugging experience – very similar to how it
> works with .net – and its the same experience on each platform - (although
> osx makes you do unnatural acts with key combinations). I've found I've
> been writing code on the console to validate it, and its super easy for
> debugging ajax as well. Some very nice profiling things there as well –
> really lets you tune the rendering etc.
>
>  I tried the tool chaining with VS and it was just too hard to make it
> work, although I do rate VS as the best JS editor (before sublime :) )
>
>
>   From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: ozDotNet <[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 12:31 PM
> To: ozDotNet <[email protected]>
> Subject: jQuery debugging
>
>   I'm trying to create a single html page with jQuery inside to
> interactively calculate a price total based upon the settings of other
> controls. It's a classic sort of "make you order" page.
>
> Can I get a familiar debugging experience like I'm used into in Visual
> Studio while writing this page and scripts? I haven't written any
> JavaScript for years and I have no idea what's available to help me these
> days. There must be some people in this group writing plain JavaScript or
> jQuery in their html pages, so what do you do to keep productive?
>
> Greg K
>
>

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