I've been doing alot of work with Xamarin and MvvmCross, in a multi platform world this is one of the best solutions right now. Javascript is not ready yet but it's moving fast.
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm wondering should developer relations sour further what it would take > to move .NET horde over to Mono? is it tooling that's holding everyone > back? .. i'm also wondering how gaming solutions like Unity3D etc after a > few more evolutions will also add value to the whole discussion (is it a > game engine or a UX SDK?) > > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com > > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Katherine Moss <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> If .NET dies, then I’m leaving. See you over at Novell HQ. LOL**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:36 AM >> >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* Re: Silverlight on Windows 8**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Did someone say "Microsoft pile on" :D**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Notes so far:**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * Silverlight strategy shifted away from breadth to depth (Windows 8 >> only). Thus discontinued.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * Blend discontinued and strategy shifted back to depth developer ONLY >> engagement models. Assume any designer integration for future lifecycle >> development will happen in the same workflow / process as HTML5 solution >> delivery happens today (me designer hand you developer design, you >> developer screw up me designer work, me designer compromise, we all happy >> .. the end).**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * Rename the entire .NET UX namespace(s) to ensure that no backwards >> compatibility outside the Portable Class Library will exist going forward >> thus adding a forcing function on developers to write new code and not >> bring old into the new. Some XAML code may be brought forward but with >> conditions applied.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * Release a brand new SDK for Windows 8 developers but ensure anyone on >> Windows 7 cannot write or deploy code that makes use of this said codebase. >> Ensure that by doing this a forcing function around Windows 8 adoption not >> only occurs at the consumer level but also developer(s) as well (given how >> great developer relations have been to date, this will work out >> brilliantly).**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * Create uncertainty in the market around what developers should and >> shouldn't be doing with their future bets, do not spend energy or time >> reminding developers that so long as Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 8 >> exist so will WPF and Silverlight. Encourage HTML5/JS or C++/XAML adoption >> but offer no up-skilling or transition program(s) for pre-existing user >> base to move across other than Evangelists doing PowerPoint demos on "Look >> i made a game using Windows 8's & Internet Explorer"**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * After 20yrs stop giving MSDN subscribers access to Windows RTM's and >> instead make them wait months after RTM for access outside of buying the >> said product or hitting thepiratebay torrent sites for access. Thus giving >> only real benefit or analysing actual adoption number(s) which in turn >> would reduce future ubiquity metric inflation .. honest.. but.... >> developers won't get to see as many "8.1" deployments as they need to thus >> the psychology of ubiquity plays out much in the way Silverlight on the web >> did when it first existed "I'll write code another time, maybe when >> everyone has a bigger install base"**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * Hold back on Deploying Silverlight through Windows Update as needed >> item despite the Consent Decree expiration which in turn lifts the only >> argument the company faced around doing this. Thus reducing any chance of a >> ~90% or more ubiquity success in Windows marketshare and also creating a >> developer relations bridge between "Goodwill, keep adopting XAML/C#" and >> "Go jump in the HTML5 pool despite all the kids that have constantly pee'd >> in before you're initial jump"**** >> >> ** ** >> >> * Highlight yet again how Scott Guthrie's influence over a complex >> problem such as Windows Azure has made a lot of gains despite the odds >> being stacked against them. Ensure all marketing talent that have to react >> to said technical work do everything they can to deter adoption from >> occurring. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> :D**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Yeah its a bit of "kick the sick puppy" moment but I look back on the >> last 2-3 years and I shake my head... technically nothing really is a >> problem persay in that people aren't shaking their fists and arguing over >> what technically is offer they are merely arguing over two sets of problems >> - "Why are you not letting this piece of technical work over here work with >> that over there" and "why do i feel alone in my adoption choices more and >> more..."**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Australia once had the highest SAT levels for .NET adoption.. i'd be >> curious to see what that data looks like today :D**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> >> **** >> >> --- >> Regards, >> Scott Barnes >> http://www.riagenic.com**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM, David Kean <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> At release, only certain sites were allowed to use flash. They backed >> down on that and opened it up to all sites based on telemetry. **** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:10 PM**** >> >> >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* Re: Silverlight on Windows 8**** >> >> **** >> >> Seriously? What happened to the "No Plug ins" ??? **** >> >> **** >> >> Wow. Microsoft, you really know how to do a number on your tech. You want >> something gone, you don't mess about. The smoking gun is still in your hand! >> **** >> >> **** >> >> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Joseph Cooney <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> Yep. Supports flash but not Silverlight.**** >> >> On 28 Aug 2013 11:40, "Bill McCarthy" <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> I thought it does support flash >> >> |-----Original Message----- >> |From: [email protected] [mailto:ozdotnet- >> |[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price >> |Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2013 11:31 AM >> |To: ozDotNet >> |Subject: Re: Silverlight on Windows 8 >> | >> |Greg, >> |Windows 8 IE browser (the full screen metro one) does not support >> plugins. >> So no >> |Silverlight, no Flash etc. >> | >> |It's more commonly known as a Silverlight Coup de grâce. >> | >> |Enjoy. >> | >> | >> |On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote: >> | >> | >> | Folks, I'm getting a weird conflict running Silverlight 5 apps on >> Windows >> |8. In the Metro shell's browser it knows I don't have SL5 installed on >> the >> first visit >> |and asks me to install a file (with x64 in the name). It then flips over >> to >> the old >> |shell and installs the file okay. Now SL5 is working in IE10 in the old >> shell, but the >> |Metro browser keeps asking me to install Silverlight over and over, and >> if >> you do >> |it says "another version is already installed". >> | >> | So there is a catch-22 dead-end. Some web searches hint that SL5 >> is >> not >> |supported in the Windows 8 Metro browser. I could not believe this would >> be >> |true. Is it, or am I missing some trick? >> | >> | >> | Greg >> |**** >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> > >
