The other part is the "not invented here" syndrome from the coalition.  And
their owing a favour to murdoch, bigtime.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Nathan Chere <[email protected]>wrote:

>  **Ø  **Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty
> selling this we will probably never know.****
>
> ** **
>
> Probably something to do with the public face of the plan being a
> patronising power-tripping imbecile with no significant IT or Telco
> industry experience or credibility and even less respect for the public he
> was (still is) getting paid a motza to supposedly serve – Stephen “Spams &
> Scams” Conroy.****
>
> ** **
>
> For such a significant public investment, things like a detailed
> cost-benefit analysis made available for open review should be mandatory
> before approval much less roll-out. To the best of my knowledge this still
> isn’t the case. They were also pushing things like the mandatory internet
> filter as part-and-parcel of the NBN which didn’t help (imagine the
> backlash if PRISM was making news while they were still pushing it?).****
>
> ** **
>
> If you push your product from day #1 with an iron fist attitude and
> constantly behave like you have something to hide, people won’t want to buy
> in whether you’re selling a bona fide cure for cancer or rancid snake oil.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:15 AM
> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
> *Subject:* [OT] NBN revisited****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi all,****
>
> ** **
>
> Now, I should start this by pointing out that it is looking like the
> Coalition is going to win this election, so this little excerpt is unlikely
> to change anything, but it’s always good to be informed.****
>
> ** **
>
> This is an excerpt from Peter Cochrane, ex-head of British Telecom, who
> essentially told the UK parliament how fibre to the node was one of the
> worst mistakes they’ve ever made. Just about every country that implemented
> fibre to the node now regrets that decision.****
>
> ** **
>
> As far as governments are concerned, he said "…just getting them to
> realise that they have been misinformed and need to start thinking about
> the needs of a nation rather than the easy life desires of companies with
> outmoded thinking."****
>
> ** **
>
> From Peter:****
>
> "The Problem With DUDES in Telco’s****
>
> 1) They come infected with the limited thinking aligned with their business
> ****
>
> 2) And their business is founded on a 200 year legacy of copper and not
> future IT needs****
>
> 3) They have been used to a monopoly past****
>
> 4) Like the bankers they have lost all sight of their full
> responsibilities to the society in which they live****
>
> 5) Their old technology choices and management systems mean they cannot
> respond fast to change****
>
> 6) BUT their was a bit of a golden time when their networks were
> transformed by optical fibre linking cities****
>
> 7) In BTs case this saw staffing fall from 242,000 to 110,000, and if they
> did FTTH it would fall to 30,000 or less****
>
> 8) AND THEN they did really dumb things like MPLS which is a concatenation
> of decision errors****
>
> 9) More equipment and interface types than necessary is really bad
> engineering****
>
> 10 And so is over 6000 buildings when you need less than 100 – and this is
> copper v glass****
>
> Here are things telco’s real don’t get:****
>
> 11) The world is not asymmetric****
>
> 12) The cost go getting bandwidth to any location is zip – 1 bit/s or
> 10Gbit/s it is the same – civil engineering dominates all cost – even when
> you already have ducts in place****
>
> 13) The cost of fibre is much less than copper for long lines and the
> local loop – there is no difference….****
>
> 14) FTTH provides a future proofing, ease of operation, lowest cost and
> the ultimate flexibility****
>
> 15) FTTC/K et all with electronics between switch and customer just adds
> unreliability operating costs****
>
> 16) PONS – GPON AND BPON et al made sense when fibre was 25p/m but not any
> more!****
>
> 17) Direct fibre is simple cheap and reliable and can be built with office
> grade EtherNet kit****
>
> 18) Without FTTH we will never have effective 3G or 4G – we need these
> nodes in offices and homes****
>
> 19) The UK will be frozen out of Cloud Computing without a bandwidth
> everywhere****
>
> 20) Bandwidths like 1Gbit/s might look huge today but they will look puny
> tomorrow****
>
> 21) In my lifetime fast was: 90, 110, 300, 600, 1200, 2400, 9600, 18,200,
> 56,000, 64,000, 365 bit/s…,1, 2, 10, 20, 100, 200, 1000Mbit/s……why would
> anyone think this progression would stop or even slow down ??****
>
> 22) No surprise then the leading industrial nations look upon the UK and
> its silly debates with pity and amusement whilst they get on with the job.
> ****
>
> 23) It is worth visiting China, Japan, Korea, Singapore, Scandinavia,
> Jersey +++ to see the actuality and their plans to move up to 10Gbit/s to
> the home.****
>
> 24) Over 35% of the UK population work on the move from home office/s,
> hotels. cars +++ and without bandwidth on the move they cannot achieve what
> is possible.****
>
> 25) This country has its back to the financial wall and needs to focus on
> the GDP enabling technologies and those members of the population that can
> invoke +ve change to the benefit of all.****
>
> The very saddest thing for me:****
>
> 26) I realised that all this was possible in 1979 when I completed my PhD
> – and then I demonstrated that FTTH worked and was cheaper than copper
> in1986. By the early 90s BT had built the factories to build these systems
> and we had commence roll out when the Thatcher government stopped the
> programme in favour of getting in the USA cable companies – who by the way
> were not allowed to supply telephony service in the USA! Our collaborators
> at that time were the Japanese and Koreans….and they just kept
> going….looking at the UK in amazement as we were left in the dust of time!
> ****
>
> Now to my position – lest you think me some impractical academic. In my BT
> life I was employed as:****
>
> 1) A digger of trenches****
>
> 2) An installer of poles, cables, telephones PBXs, exchanges****
>
> 3) A maintainer of PBXs, switches, repeater and radio stations****
>
> 4) A network designer and planner****
>
> 5) A research engineer****
>
> 6) A software writer****
>
> 7) A designer of test equipment****
>
> 8) Systems and networks designer****
>
> 9) Head of Group a then Head of Section and then Head of Division for
> Transmission Systems****
>
> 10) Head of Research and then CTO****
>
> And since leaving BT life and experience has been even faster and even
> broader…****
>
> ** **
>
> I do hope this helps, Peter****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Peter also has a couple of interesting articles on the future of the
> internet:****
>
> FTTH The only solution, found here:
> http://www.nexstdigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/NExsT-2012-02.pdf**
> **
>
> No broadband, no future, found here:
> http://techcitynews.com/2013/01/28/no-broadband-no-future/****
>
> His personal website is found here: http://www.cochrane.org.uk****
>
> ** **
>
> Finally, I have added a link to the New Zealand NBN cost/benefits study,
> titled “Building the benefits of broadband : How New Zealand can increase
> the social & economic impacts of high-speed broadband”. Extrapolating for
> Australia, it indicates that the NBN could bring in between A$105 billion
> dollars and A$237 billion dollars over 20 years, which means a boon in
> economic activity, new businesses, products and services, jobs and taxes
> paid. Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty
> selling this we will probably never know.****
>
> http://www.tmcnet.com/redir/?u=1006058‎****
>
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