I tend to agree. If you have a number in mind just tell them what it is. If you try and bargain you down just say no thanks and walk.
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Wallace Turner <wallacetur...@gmail.com>wrote: > (sry to the original poster whos thread is now hijacked) > > > >and the first person to pick a number loses. > how does that work? they ask you what you want, you say it and they agree > to that level. Everyone *can* be happy and no one 'loses' > > > > > > On 3/12/2013 12:38 PM, mike smith wrote: > > Or if you're already employed. You need to pay a lot more to attract > someone that's happy with their current job. (to account for the tax > bracket, etc) But yes, essentially it is bartering, and the first person > to pick a number loses. > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Stephen Price > <step...@perthprojects.com>wrote: > >> You are assuming of course that everyone are paid exactly what they are >> worth. This is part of it but there is also an element of market here. ie >> buyer negotiates with seller and if a price agreement is met then a sale >> (employment) takes place. >> Some people negotiate better (to their financial benefit) than others. If >> you are desperate for work then you are more likely to settle for a lower >> package than if you didn't need to work. (ie you have a sugar momma) >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Arjang Assadi <arjang.ass...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> I don't think anyone really knows how it really works, everything is >>> dynamic, 2 people who have the same experience would be wanting more or >>> less depending on how many kids they have, mortgage etc. >>> Also 2xless experienced developers could be worst than 1xexperienced >>> developer, but twice the developers for the same price looks better for the >>> HR I guess. >>> >>> HR would come up with their magic numbers eventually, making less sense >>> than before. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Arjang >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 December 2013 10:34, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So if it's 80k they're going to be doing less work? The likely answer >>>> is yes, but does it mean you're going to hire 2 lesser experienced persons? >>>> (I'm not being aggressive here, I just wonder how this really works out) >>>> >>>> (you knew the rest of the group was going to sit back and do armchair >>>> comments, it's the price of a free ad :) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Anton Felich <anton.fel...@nga.net>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well that is going to depend entirely on the applicant’s skill set >>>>> and level of experience isn’t it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are happy to pay anywhere from 80k -120k + super. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: >>>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Nathan Chere >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 December 2013 10:06 AM >>>>> *To:* ozDotNet >>>>> *Subject:* RE: [OT] We need a senior developer ASAP! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you’re serious you should try putting the hourly rate in the ad too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It’s not hard. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ >>>>> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Anton Felich >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 December 2013 8:21 AM >>>>> *To:* ozDotNet >>>>> *Subject:* [OT] We need a senior developer ASAP! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We are looking to take another senior developer on board to work on a >>>>> large SaaS application. Link to job ad is: - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://ngaerecruit.nga.net.au/cp/index.cfm?event=jobs.checkJobDetailsNewApplication&returnToEvent=jobs.listJobs&jobid=7126cd6d-60fa-4a2f-bf4a-a28100cbfafb&CurATC=EXT&CurBID=9f0bb952-50f3-4d91-850d-9db401350b96&JobListID=0b92db25-0eb1-4e89-8df2-9bc90126acaa&jobsListKey=395468f1-d71b-4598-8a49-df77641411b8&persistVariables=CurATC,CurBID,JobListID,jobsListKey,JobID&lid=39379610015 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is some of the frameworks we are using: - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> MVC 3.0 >>>>> >>>>> Fluent nHibernate >>>>> >>>>> StructureMap >>>>> >>>>> NUnit / Moq >>>>> >>>>> Bootstrap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Reply direct to me so the rest of the group doesn’t get spammed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Anton >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Click here <https://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/MZbqvYs5QwJvpeaetUwhCQ==>to >>>>> report this email as spam. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. >>>>> www.websense.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Meski >>>> >>>> http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv >>>> >>>> "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, >>>> you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Meski > > http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > > >
