Aside from all the good qualities of Chrome as a 'normal' browser user, I'm
so habituated on the Chrome dev tools that I couldn't change even if I
wanted to.

Joseph


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:32 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom <g...@greglow.com>wrote:

> I never thought I’d change my default browser but I had to do so with
> IE11. Moved to using Chrome as a default. I eventually I got to a point
> where I just had to get things done and whether or not Microsoft believe
> they did the right thing by removing the agent string entries, they “broke
> the internet” for too many people.
>
>
>
> I don’t think they understood the politics of this. If someone is browsing
> ok, and updates to IE11 and then so many sites don’t work, they won’t blame
> the sites, they’ll blame what they just updated.
>
>
>
> There were lots of Microsoft’s own properties that wouldn’t work with IE11.
>
>
>
> You can’t even lodge a BAS return here in Australia with IE11 and if you
> talk to the ATO, they just say “Use Chrome”.
>
>
>
> Wish it wasn’t so.
>
>
>
> Last month was the first month where I noted more Chrome use than IE use
> at our web  site, and we’re a Microsoft related site. That’s a big change
> for us from 6 months ago. It used to be an IE majority for us.
>
>
>
> Apart from the lack of compatibility with so many existing sites, I quite
> like many things about IE11. I just can’t get work done when it’s my
> default browser.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:23 AM
>
> *To:* 'ozDotNet'
> *Subject:* RE: [OT] Browser use
>
>
>
> Just want to spread my use of technology amongst many companies instead of
> a few…it also inspires competition and innovation.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [
> mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Stephen Price
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 1:18 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Browser use
>
>
>
> So you would rather support a small non powerful company that uses your
> data any way they want?
>
>
>
> The underdog so to speak?
>
>
>
> Personally, I'd rather use the browser that does everything I want it to
> and none of the things I don't. Targeted advertising? Sure I want that. I
> *WANT* to see ads for the latest and greatest Tablet or Monitor. I *don't*
> want to see tampon ads. Sign me up. Shut up and take my money!
>
>
>
> If said company becomes an issue, I'll change. I'm a fickle customer, more
> so than they are. I'm using them more than they are using me.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:25 AM, <anthonyatsmall...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> I use Firefox, Chrome is great but I do not want to support a company that
> is so powerful and use your data what ever way they want.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk
> *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:06 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Browser use
>
>
>
> I am pretty much with you. I find IE works better with VS so use it for
> most development unless I need to do a lot of client side debugging in
> which case I use Chrome. I then use Chrome for everyday use. I only use
> Firefox for cross browser testing.
>
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
> I disagree. I think?
>
>
>
> I find I use Chrome and IE. For development it depends what I'm doing. If
> I want to hit a breakpoint in VS then IE does that. If I want to use the
> debugger in the browser then I use Chrome. IE keeps changing their
> Developer tools and even though they are improving I still find Chrome more
> productive for debugging.
>
>
>
> For actual USE I use Chrome for most things but occasionally something
> doesn't work right and I switch. Pluralsite for example seems to hang after
> a while in Chrome. No issues in IE.
>
> Not used Firefox in some years. Toggling between two is fine. A third
> becomes too much.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Burstin <david.burs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I was using Firefox on some machines, but recently moved to Chrome as a
> political statement, not because I love Google but rather because I wanted
> to show my dissatisfaction with Firefox's political 
> correctness/censorship<http://readwrite.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-mozilla-resigns-ceo#awesm=~oEX2WzjEhsumsR>.
> (And in case you were wondering, I do support marriage equality but even
> more than that I support peoples right to disagree with me. Agree?)
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2014 11:43, Bec Carter <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This thread got me wondering if anybody here actually uses a browser other
> than Chrome. By *use* I mean to personally browse and not to just test
> sites across different browsers. Even on my now dead Macbook I used Chrome
> and just find it nicer than Safari or IE.
>
> Just curious :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:10 PM, noonie <neale.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Different browsers different behaviours and now I know why. Different
> sites may be different user behaviours and I suspect I know why.
>
> Now all I have to figure out is how to "make it go away" because,
> fundamentally, that's all that users want ;-)
>
> --
> noonie
>
> On 21/05/2014 3:54 PM, "Ken Schaefer" <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>
> So you’re using different browsers to access the different sites?
>
>
>
> What if you swap the browsers around? Does the behaviour follow the
> browser? Or stay with the website? That will probably give you a clue as to
> whether it’s a browser, proxy or website issue.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 May 2014 3:29 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Thanks Ken,
>
>
>
> IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here,
> things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-)
>
>
>
> --
> noonie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>
> I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy
> server or not.
>
> Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it
> should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from
> the web server.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in
> MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an
> earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser.
>
>
>
> --
>
> noonie
>
>
>
> On 19 May 2014 19:22, <anthonyatsmall...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have
> logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this?
>
>
>
> Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie
> *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet
> *Subject:* [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy
> text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials
> on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site.
>
> Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very
> minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations.
> I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be
> automatically offered in one case but not in the other.
>
> Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire
> together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer?
>
> --
> Regards,
> noonie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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