Aside from all the good qualities of Chrome as a 'normal' browser user, I'm so habituated on the Chrome dev tools that I couldn't change even if I wanted to.
Joseph On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:32 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom <g...@greglow.com>wrote: > I never thought I’d change my default browser but I had to do so with > IE11. Moved to using Chrome as a default. I eventually I got to a point > where I just had to get things done and whether or not Microsoft believe > they did the right thing by removing the agent string entries, they “broke > the internet” for too many people. > > > > I don’t think they understood the politics of this. If someone is browsing > ok, and updates to IE11 and then so many sites don’t work, they won’t blame > the sites, they’ll blame what they just updated. > > > > There were lots of Microsoft’s own properties that wouldn’t work with IE11. > > > > You can’t even lodge a BAS return here in Australia with IE11 and if you > talk to the ATO, they just say “Use Chrome”. > > > > Wish it wasn’t so. > > > > Last month was the first month where I noted more Chrome use than IE use > at our web site, and we’re a Microsoft related site. That’s a big change > for us from 6 months ago. It used to be an IE majority for us. > > > > Apart from the lack of compatibility with so many existing sites, I quite > like many things about IE11. I just can’t get work done when it’s my > default browser. > > > > Regards, > > > > Greg > > > > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax > > SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *anthonyatsmall...@mail.com > *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 11:23 AM > > *To:* 'ozDotNet' > *Subject:* RE: [OT] Browser use > > > > Just want to spread my use of technology amongst many companies instead of > a few…it also inspires competition and innovation. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [ > mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] *On > Behalf Of *Stephen Price > *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 1:18 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Browser use > > > > So you would rather support a small non powerful company that uses your > data any way they want? > > > > The underdog so to speak? > > > > Personally, I'd rather use the browser that does everything I want it to > and none of the things I don't. Targeted advertising? Sure I want that. I > *WANT* to see ads for the latest and greatest Tablet or Monitor. I *don't* > want to see tampon ads. Sign me up. Shut up and take my money! > > > > If said company becomes an issue, I'll change. I'm a fickle customer, more > so than they are. I'm using them more than they are using me. > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 10:25 AM, <anthonyatsmall...@mail.com> wrote: > > I use Firefox, Chrome is great but I do not want to support a company that > is so powerful and use your data what ever way they want. > > > > > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig van Nieuwkerk > *Sent:* Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:06 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Browser use > > > > I am pretty much with you. I find IE works better with VS so use it for > most development unless I need to do a lot of client side debugging in > which case I use Chrome. I then use Chrome for everyday use. I only use > Firefox for cross browser testing. > > > > Craig > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Stephen Price <step...@perthprojects.com> > wrote: > > I disagree. I think? > > > > I find I use Chrome and IE. For development it depends what I'm doing. If > I want to hit a breakpoint in VS then IE does that. If I want to use the > debugger in the browser then I use Chrome. IE keeps changing their > Developer tools and even though they are improving I still find Chrome more > productive for debugging. > > > > For actual USE I use Chrome for most things but occasionally something > doesn't work right and I switch. Pluralsite for example seems to hang after > a while in Chrome. No issues in IE. > > Not used Firefox in some years. Toggling between two is fine. A third > becomes too much. > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Burstin <david.burs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I was using Firefox on some machines, but recently moved to Chrome as a > political statement, not because I love Google but rather because I wanted > to show my dissatisfaction with Firefox's political > correctness/censorship<http://readwrite.com/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-mozilla-resigns-ceo#awesm=~oEX2WzjEhsumsR>. > (And in case you were wondering, I do support marriage equality but even > more than that I support peoples right to disagree with me. Agree?) > > > > On 22 May 2014 11:43, Bec Carter <bec.usern...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This thread got me wondering if anybody here actually uses a browser other > than Chrome. By *use* I mean to personally browse and not to just test > sites across different browsers. Even on my now dead Macbook I used Chrome > and just find it nicer than Safari or IE. > > Just curious :-) > > > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:10 PM, noonie <neale.n...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ken, > > Different browsers different behaviours and now I know why. Different > sites may be different user behaviours and I suspect I know why. > > Now all I have to figure out is how to "make it go away" because, > fundamentally, that's all that users want ;-) > > -- > noonie > > On 21/05/2014 3:54 PM, "Ken Schaefer" <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote: > > So you’re using different browsers to access the different sites? > > > > What if you swap the browsers around? Does the behaviour follow the > browser? Or stay with the website? That will probably give you a clue as to > whether it’s a browser, proxy or website issue. > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie > *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 May 2014 3:29 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page > > > > Thanks Ken, > > > > IE and Chrome behave differently and, as the clipboard is involved here, > things get even murkier. We're warming up WireShark as I write ;-) > > > > -- > noonie > > > > > > > > On 20 May 2014 13:48, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote: > > I’d start by finding out whether the challenge is coming from the proxy > server or not. > > Packet capture on the proxy server can probably help you here, as it > should show what the proxy server is doing vs. what is coming directly from > the web server. > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie > *Sent:* Tuesday, 20 May 2014 8:22 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page > > > > Probably not IE as the user agent string is slightly different ending in > MSOffice 12 which indicates Outlook or Word. It identifies itself as an > earlier version of IE tahn the version installed as the browser. > > > > -- > > noonie > > > > On 19 May 2014 19:22, <anthonyatsmall...@mail.com> wrote: > > I would assume word is using the IE to grad the urls, hence if you have > logged into the website using IE, then word may be aware of this? > > > > Just my suggestion…not sure how true it is! > > > > > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *noonie > *Sent:* Monday, 19 May 2014 6:20 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* [OT] Copy & Paste from protected Web page > > > > Greetings, > > I'm trying to figure out an issue that a user has reported. When they copy > text from a Web page into Microsoft Word they are prompted for credentials > on one site but not on another, similarly configured, site. > > Both sites are basic auth over https and both are ASP.net apps with very > minor differences. The major differences are in their proxy configurations. > I can understand why credentials are required but not why they seem to be > automatically offered in one case but not in the other. > > Where can I find some documentation about how Windows and Office conspire > together to grab CSS files so Word can decide what text formatting to offer? > > -- > Regards, > noonie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- w: http://jcooney.net t: @josephcooney