Last time i looked at mvc (v1 or 2 i think) it was ok and pretty simple but
i hear it's getting bloated now


On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote:

> In the end I opened a new empty project on the left, and an "Internet"
> wizard generated one of the right. Using the generated one as guidance I
> slowly add stuff to the empty one. It's working acceptably well so far, but
> there is so much inter-dependent code in the wizard project that it takes
> some concentration to figure out the minimum that I need.
>
> What irritates me is that the crappy O'Rielly ASP.NET MVC book that I
> studied so diligently to get me started does not mention a lot of the
> "magic" in the wizard project. There are magical conventions and tricks
> everywhere wiring-up code and markup that I'm discovering as I go. As I
> said last year, I was finally fed up with all the magic, verbosity and
> complex lifecycle of Web Forms and wanted to move to MVC to have more
> control, but I'm confronted by a new set of magic (but at least I suppose
> there's less of it!). Sometimes I'm tempted to go all the way back to Http
> Request and Response and do it all myself the old CGI way!
>
> *Greg K*
>
>
> On 23 August 2014 15:09, Stephen Price <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I think there is an option for blank solution, and then you tick the MVC
>> box. It's changed a few times recently but it's getting better to start
>> with what you want so you can add it rather than have to remove it.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks, this afternoon I was compelled to start a demo web app for
>>> someone, and I figured it was time commit to MVC 4 and use it as a
>>> realistic training exercise. The app will be quite simple: A login page, a
>>> pick list page and a data entry page; no themes; no AJAX, no jQuery.
>>>
>>> A new MVC4 Internet solution created by the VS2013 wizard is grotesque
>>> overkill with 52 references and dozens of scripts and images. I was about
>>> to start stripping all the stuff I don't need away, but I'm not sure what
>>> needed or not and I could easily break the thing to hell.
>>>
>>> What do others in here do when they want to start a new MVC 4 project?
>>> Do you start with an empty one, or strip down a generated one, or something
>>> else more convenient that I'm not aware of?
>>>
>>> *Greg K*
>>>
>>
>>
>

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