Hi Andrew, you must have missed some chat earlier in the week. I didn't know that the phone simulator relied on Hyper-V, so I was taken by surprise. That's solved by being loaned a Mac running Windows 8.1 on the metal. I've previously downloaded Xamarin for evaluation and I spent hours reading their online docs and I doodled with some projects. I'm sceptical that the starter edition would satisfy my needs, as I get the impression that their forms feature in the business edition is probably the most productive way to go. However if their starter edition with expanded quotas runs in VS2013 premium then I'll give it a try -- *Greg K*
On 20 November 2014 09:50, Andrew Coates (DX AUSTRALIA) < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Greg > > > > >> It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all > the brands > > > > You almost can – check out Xamarin and particularly Xamarin Forms. > Especially with the recent announcements (community edition of VS and the > doubling of the size limits plus VS support on the Xamarin starter > edition), this is a very affordable and extremely productive way to develop > mobile apps across 3 major platforms. > > > > Cheers > > > > Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 > Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 > Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 • > http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh > *Sent:* Thursday, 20 November 2014 8:32 AM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project > > > > Hi Ian, Stephen at al, FYI I was loaned an Intel Mac for this specific > phone job, and I put Windows 8.1 and VS2013.4 on it and the phone emulator > runs fine with Hyper-V. I didn't realise until a couple of days ago that > Windows Phone development is such a familiar experience if you already know > WPF or Silverlight. It's all familiar XAML and coding patterns and almost > all of the important class libraries are available and ready-to-go. All of > the phone specific stuff is nicely separated and you can reference it when > you feel the need. It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this > pleasantly across all the brands -- *Greg* > > > > On 18 November 2014 17:17, ILT (O) <[email protected]> wrote: > > Greg - Yes, Windows 8 has the Hyper-V. But I know that a few people > have used the WP8 SDK on Windows 7. I think a requirement is 64-bit > Windows? But the VS2012 Express version is suitable. > > I found this a good jump-off point - Developing Apps for Windows 8 > <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402551(v=vs.105).aspx> > - possibly the topic about *requirements for the emulator* is what you > needed to see first, though. > > I do have a Windows Phone, and after a long delay it was updated to WP8.1 > a few months ago (Australia followed later than many countries). A > beginners tool is called Windows App Studio - I just found its tutorial > location again, here <http://appstudio.windows.com/en-us>. > > Ian Thomas > > Albert Park, Victoria > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:32 PM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project > > Hi Ian (and Stephen), > > No I was absentmindedly on Windows 7 where I do the bulk of my normal work. > > In a tiny hint in some web search I saw a comment about no support in > > Windows 7. I just went over to a VM running VS2013 retail and it has lots > > of phone templates, so there you go! I staggers me though, as I thought it > > was all simulated and I find it hard to believe a certain type of VS > > project needs Windows 8. That means that Windows 8 is actually useful for > > something!! (for the wrong reasons) -- *Greg* > > On 18 November 2014 14:42, ILT (O) <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Ian Thomas > > > Albert Park, Victoria > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > > > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM > > > *To:* ozDotNet > > > *Subject:* VS2013 Windows Phone project > > > > > > > > > > > > Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've > > > never done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a > > > bad start. VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I > > > have installed all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0 > > > and v8.1 folders under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I > should > > > just be able to select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- *Greg > > > K* > > > > > >
