Thanks guys, appreciate the help. Cheers
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Greg Harris < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Bec, > > > Email uses a store and forward approach, the computer wanting to send the > email stores the email until it can see another computer that it forwards > it to that is closer to the recipient, when it will forward the email to > the next computer, which will start the process over again. This is > repeated until the mail gets through. > > > I am sure there is a way to look at the email headers to see the number of > these hops the mail has made to get from user A to user B. But it could be > quite a few. > > > All you need is one of those computers to lose the email (should be a rare > occurrence), or go off line during the store phase and you have a lost or > delayed email. > > > With the number of hops that the email has to go through, there are going > to be multiple different OS’s and mail programs that will be touching the > email, each of which may have different processes. > > This is a classic case of if any of them go wrong, the mail will not get > through! 99.9% plus of the time it works great, but you have to allow for > the possibility that one of the machines between user A and user B ate the > email. > > > If an email is important, you should copy it to a third party, so that you > can ask that third party, did you get it to prove that it was sent and/or > follow up the email with a direct call to the recipient to make sure it was > received, read and understood! > > > The answer to your question “Is it possible to achieve this by tampering > with the mail server settings or some other way?” I would be about 99% > sure it is, but if you brought in the forensic IT guys, I am sure that they > could find some form of audit trail to show the manipulation of the system. > > > Regards Greg > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:31 AM, ILT (O) <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Bec - have you looked at the (prior) email headers from this person? That >> will tell you what email client is normally used, and some other >> intermediate server information. >> >> I have just tested this, and It’s possible for (for example) using >> Outlook desktop versions to copy or move items to and from the Sent Items >> folder. >> >> Without looking at the sender’s emailer, and forensically examining the >> headers - Sent, Received, Created dates (etc) - you’re not going to win an >> argument though, I reckon. >> ------------------------------ >> >> Ian Thomas >> Albert Park, Victoria >> >> >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bec Carter >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 29, 2014 9:57 AM >> *To:* ozDotNet >> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Turning off outgoing mail possible? >> >> >> >> Haha thanks guys but this case is quite suspicious. It was sent over two >> weeks ago and it just happens the most important email is the only one >> which didn't arrive. All others arrived. I'm not buying it. :-) Is it >> possible to achieve this by tampering with the mail server settings or some >> other way? >> >> >> >> Noonie- I've not been able to replicate this by dragging into the sent >> folder in gmail. Perhaps Outlook will do it but that would be quite dodgy. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Stephen Price <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I always marvel at how people use email for business. As if it were >> guaranteed delivery. The technology has been around longer than the >> internet and I'd not be surprised if its not been changed in all that time. >> I'd like to hope it has but not looked into it. Might put that on my >> weekend reading list. Right after a few marvel comics. :) >> >> On Nov 28, 2014 4:12 PM, "noonie" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Bec, >> >> The mail client might let you drag an email into sent items. >> >> Email is not guaranteed to be delivered. That's not part of the spec >> (though you might be able to interpret it that way). >> >> So they could have sent it and you still might receive it next week, or >> never... >> >> Isn't that just peachy? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> noonie >> >> On 28/11/2014 5:17 pm, "Bec Carter" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Sorry everyone but this one is way way off topic. >> >> >> >> Someone claims to have sent me an email. I never received it- yes I >> checked the Junk folder :-) >> >> They've shown me their mailbox and its sitting in the Sent folder. >> >> >> >> Can someone with control of their web domain send an email, have it pop >> into the Sent items folder but not actually send? Say by somehow turning >> off (or providing a faulty) outgoing mail server setting or similar? >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> > >
