Yeah just replace Poland with liberty.
On 27 Mar 2015 15:37, "Tom Rutter" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't know about "at least it was nice to see Libs and Labs finally
> cooperate on something, anything". That's like Hitler and Stalin agreeing
> on something.
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So the bill has passed, opposed by everyone but the two major parties. Oh
>> well, it's not all bad, as at least it was nice to see Libs and Labs
>> finally cooperate on something, anything, and I'm sure they know what's
>> best for us! Now, I don't want my metadata, or anything tracked by the
>> government, and perhaps there are others in here who feel the same way.
>> Senator Ian McDonald said that if you have nothing to hide then you having
>> nothing to worry about, but I would urge him to go to Brandis' bookshelves
>> and look for a book on the 20th history of Europe to see if that changes
>> his mind.
>>
>> There are many overlapping questions here ... Exactly what is being
>> stored? Who stores the metadata where? How is the data protected? Who can
>> access it? How much will it cost the end users?
>>
>> I learned in a radio interview this week that metadata for offshore
>> webmail accounts like Gmail and Hotmail cannot be retained by Australian
>> ISPs (I hope this is true). I presume that Australian officials will have
>> to jump through unchanged hoops to request information about such accounts
>> and activity, and I hope these hoops are reasonably narrow.
>>
>> I'm not sure if they're planning to retain web browsing data, does anyone
>> know? If so, rumours have it that using a foreign VPN is the easiest way
>> around this. If so again, is it not too much of a burden to setup and run?
>>
>> I reckon it would be cheaper if the Australian government just paid for a
>> live data fed from Facebook and Google, as they already know more about us
>> than the NSA.
>>
>> TGIF, Greg
>>
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