Entertaining reply, as always David. [😊]
made my morning. ________________________________ From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf of David Connors <da...@connors.com> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 8:50:30 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: Entity Framework - the lay of the land On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 at 10:33 Greg Keogh <gfke...@gmail.com<mailto:gfke...@gmail.com>> wrote: What do you suggest as an alternative? Writing stored procedures. What about the classical problem of "impedance mismatch". You have to carefully maintain DataSets or similar and use DataAdapter to fill them, then writing data back is a circus trick with the ADO.NET<http://ADO.NET> classes. Otherwise referred to as doing high quality work. Then they invented ORMs, why did they do that!? -- GK I have given this considerable thought over the years. Normally I explain this with swear words but I think it boils down to two key factors. Weltanschauung The people who think that ORMs are a good idea have a code-centric view of the world. Careful declarative design of a data tier is outside of this world-view so they see it as overhead (plus they often have to bargain with smelly neck beard DBAs). Free Lunch / Laziness / Lack of care for end result Developers get excited over the prospect of auto-generation because OMFG look at all that code I did not write actually. Most developers don't wear the ops cost of their solutions and they certainly don't USE them and consequently don't give a toss if some EF-based turd they engineered takes 10 seconds to do things that should take 10msec. Things would be different if the average engineer were forced to walk a mile in the average IT pro / end users shoes. YMMV but I had a good rant on this a few years back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMfRahO8fLo (jesus that was 6 years ago). I have softened my stance on Agile somewhat since then. Good outcomes always take more effort and energy. The universe has been that way for 13.8 billion years and isn't going to change any time soon. David. -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
