Yea but at least you had a chance. Now you have none: the solution provided presently is inferior to anything you could have already got, and is certainly not even as good as Telstra cable provided 10 years ago. Also, the present system just blew all the money on obsolete technology that can't be upgraded, when they could have spent that money on getting at least some of the network correct.
On 5 Jan 2018 4:24 PM, "Greg Low" <g...@greglow.com> wrote: Yes, but when? As we were a cable area (where I was at the time), we weren't even on the planning roadmap. Far more chance of having fibre if I was out the back of Ballarat, in Armidale, or at the beach in Coffs Harbour. I can still get fibre to the house at the beach there, but looks like no chance at all in suburban Melbourne. And the poor sods living in a cable area who couldn't even get cable were really SOL. Mind you, by now, I would have been living at Sapphire Beach or somewhere with fibre, but the better half couldn't deal with the idea of a move at the time. (And ironically now thinks it might be a good idea…) To get connected at the time, you needed to be in a rural marginal electorate, or in Tony Windsor's electorate. Rudd/Conroy had also predicated it on becoming commercially viable quite quickly. That also was never going to happen, particularly when they were stringing fibre in low density areas first. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com |http://greglow.me *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright *Sent:* Friday, 5 January 2018 6:46 PM *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE I think you would have been better off with the one you think wouldn't have arrived. At least what would have been delivered was at least upgradable and future proof. Nbn fttp at my brothers house is pretty good. On 5 Jan 2018 1:12 PM, "Greg Low" <g...@greglow.com> wrote: Hard to know if I’m better off with a network that wouldn’t have arrived in my working lifetime, or a hopeless one. Neither would have given me what I needed. I would have happily paid many thousands for a connection and a few hundred per month if it actually arrived and worked, but I’m guessing that’s the minority. We should have just taken it as a nation building program and funded and resourced it appropriately. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com ------------------------------ *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com <ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> on behalf of Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, January 5, 2018 4:21:54 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* RE: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE That was the ramp up phase though. It was always going to take some time to ramp up. Look at what the alternative gave us: a two year delay and a network that's not fit for purpose. Even if they kept the old network and simply rolled it out slower we would have been better off. In fact, I think that's what people really wanted - better management. But we didn't end up getting that, the Liberals simply showed us they were just as bad if not worse at managing that project than Labor. Who would have thought? On 5 Jan 2018 11:54 AM, "Greg Low" <g...@greglow.com> wrote: I remember well the day he proudly announced that his fibre had now passed 1000 houses in Perth. Someone asked him how many could actually connect. Eventually the answer was 16. Regards, Greg Dr Greg Low 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com |http://greglow.me *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors *Sent:* Friday, 5 January 2018 3:49 PM *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Internet use on 4G LTE On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 at 14:45 Tony Wright <tonyw...@gmail.com> wrote: The hilarity of Labor being better negotiators, and the libs capitulating and handing over money they didn't have to. Oh they handed over a crap load of money. I think given the choice Telstra would have done no deal at all, except for the strategic importance of RF spectrum. Conroy isn't exactly a respected figure. In retrospect, maybe he and Telstra were a match made in heaven. http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/senators-red- undie-remarks-fall-flat-in-new-york-20120928-26pqt.html -- David Connors da...@connors.com | @davidconnors | https://t.me/davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
