Your replies have confirmed the situation. I didn't realise a IPv4
hunt-and-reclaim was going on, and now they've found me, and I can't get
off their radar, and they call the shots, and I'll have to roll over and
give-up the range I used to own. If I don't join and pay then the range
apparently becomes "disabled" from any use. So you have no choice but to
surrender (or just hang on to the dead C block out of spite). If it cost
$15 a year to keep the range then I'd pay (it's not even worth that), but
*$500* !

In any other case I would call this theft and extortion.

*Greg K*

On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 13:35, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
wrote:

> Yep, the major ISPs ran out of IPv4 space ages ago. I note that I can no
> longer get an v4 IP when using any mobile service that has Telstra
> underneath it. And of course that’s a world of entertainment for systems
> that I need to connect to that have IP v4 allow lists.
>
>
>
> I’m sure they’re mopping up all the class Cs as they can. I’ll bet they
> did the class B and class A ones ages ago.
>
>
>
> In the end, whoever owns the routing at the upper levels gets to call the
> shots.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* David Connors via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 March 2023 1:29 PM
> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
> *Cc:* David Connors <da...@connors.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] APNIC charges for historical resources
>
>
>
> Greg,
>
>
>
> Historical objects were always free but they made you bring them into a
> paid basis whenever you needed additional IP space or a new AS number or
> something. That happened to us years ago. Once you're on that train you
> can't get off.
>
>
>
> They must be rounding up the stragglers like you. :)
>
>
>
> David.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2023 at 07:41, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
> Folks, It's almost Friday...
>
>
>
> I just received an email from APNIC to tell me that a class C IP block
> I've owned for 27 years is now under their control and I will be charged
> $500/year to keep this *historical* resource that was created before
> APNIC existed. See Maintenance Fee Change
> <https://help.apnic.net/s/article/historical-fee-change>. Has anyone else
> received a similar notification?
>
>
>
> My thoughts were: this is either kidnapping, extortion or a "protection
> racket", or all three.
>
>
>
> I'm reminded of the 1990s when Melbourne IT were effectively selling the
> dictionary for a minimum ~$135 per domain name, and special words like
> "realestate" or "sales" etc were up for the highest bidder at eye-watering
> prices. Ah, the days of the Internet boom...!
>
>
>
> I'd like to write an official complaint about APNIC's money-grubbing scam
> to someone, but who? The ACCC is a toothless tiger. There is a federal
> ombudsman, but would APNIC be on their radar?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Greg K*
>
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