I find I use copilot.microsoft.com far more than GitHub copilot. I find I
have better "conversations" with the Microsoft site and it can handle and
critique any code I put in too

On Wed, 31 July 2024, 3:14 pm Nathan Schultz via ozdotnet, <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

> My Copilot trial is expiring today, and I'm still wondering whether I
> should continue it.
> It's ... ok. Most of the time it saves me some keystrokes. I needed
> a Levenshtein Distance function the other day and it was decent - only
> required a small tidy up. Only a few times have I been wondering what it's
> thinking. Much better than the early days with ChatGPT.
> One annoying thing since installing it is when dealing with long method
> signatures, intellisense is no longer telling me which parameter I'm up to.
> Probably something in the configuration somewhere for that.
>
> I was listening to a PodCast about the future of Copilot, and I think it's
> going to get far more interesting (useful) in the future.
> They recognize that coding is a small minority of what we do. I know some
> people say they spend 40% coding, but for myself it's probably closer to
> 10%.
> What they're working towards (i.e. are currently dog-fooding themselves),
> is being able to give it requirements. It will look through the code-base,
> and create "slots" with suggestions on how it would implement it, which you
> can accept/reject or change.
> I'm currently working on a legacy ERP system with many years worth of
> "bandaids" (most of which were well before my time). And understanding the
> code-base takes more time than making the change itself. So this would
> actually move the needle on overall productivity.
>
> Nathan.
>
>
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2024 at 13:57, Tony McGee via ozdotnet <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Copilot definitely isn't a magic 'do my job' button, and likely won't
>> ever be, or that job would simply no longer exist.
>>
>> It does take care of a lot of the busy work though, and isn't just for
>> Intellisense like code suggestions - you can happily converse with it in
>> the chat window about high level topics and refine the context
>> incrementally, generate boilerplate json/bicep/scripts from a few lines of
>> prose, or highlight a non-trivial block of existing code and ask it to
>> explain/summarise or find issues.
>>
>> While it's not HAL 9000 I reckon it comes pretty close, and quite
>> importantly hasn't tried to murder me (yet).
>>
>> Before my trial I was skeptical about how much value it would provide,
>> but was pleasantly surprised enough to hand over 15 dollarydoos each month.
>> 😎
>>
>> cheers,
>> Tony
>>
>> On 30/07/2024 08:06, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet wrote:
>>
>> When I first saw the movie *2001: A Space Odyssey* in 1969 I was
>> fascinated by HAL (I was clearly destined to work in IT!), and now 55 years
>> later I'd like to be able to sit down with HAL and explain some complex
>> business requirement to him, converse like professionals and weigh-up the
>> pros and cons of different platforms and languages based upon his world of
>> experience and get him to code like a 1000x developer and generate a
>> complete working skeleton of the required product. When will I see that?
>> I'm a bit disappointed so far.
>>
>> Oh well, back to coding with my Copilot buddy.
>>
>> *Greg K*
>>
>>
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