Dear Andrea,

How right you are!  As long as midwives have to register as nurses in
Australia then their unique services will be abused and their skills
lessened.

Plumbers are not electricians and whooooaaaaagghhhh
we all no how dangerous it is to mix electricity and water!!!!!!!!!!!

LOve Nigel

I move that the Ineffectual ACMI actually demands individual
recognition for the midwifery profession and art.

We have more in common with our clients than we do the nursing
profession.  I move all midwives in the ACMI evaluate their own
understanding of midwifery and the role of the midwife,  Please let
consumers in heaven knows we need a positive direction.

Love  MIDWIFE nigel

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> Dear Jen,
> 
> You have to remember that all new ideas are
> threatening to a large 
> majority. As a midwife has this broad based training
> I wish I didn't. Far 
> from seeing it as an advantage it is simply an
> excuse for employers to 
> abuse my chosen area of work at the expense of the
> group of clients that 
> I have chosen to work with. The only way I could
> train as a midwife was 
> to do my general training first. Then I chose to do
> mid and to continue 
> to work as a midwife. BUT as I have chosen to live
> outside an area that 
> has enough births for a full time mid ward they fill
> the ward up with 
> ANYTHING because I am trained to look after them. 
> If I wasn't they would 
> have to look at other ways of utilising my skills to
> 'their' best 
> financial gain by expanding the role of the midwife.
> In a general ward it 
> is always the mid women who miss out because they
> are not sick (dependent 
> physically). Now before all the idealists jump in I
> agree OK that the 
> women would be better off with a completely differnt
> system but maybe 
> this will force 'them' to look at it not today
> because they can still get 
> general trained midwives but as midwives train as
> direct entry the 
> shortages will force the establishments to employ
> them.
> 
> The first ones though had better be prepared to be
> in it for the long 
> haul as employment opportunities may be limited for
> a while. Although 
> there are already rural areas that say they can't
> get enough midwives so 
> if they are prepared to live in the country ( and
> its a great life ) they 
> may be OK. 
> 
> Graduate programmes are another area that you will
> need to look at. As a 
> midwife in a rural setting (I can't tell you where
> in case big brother is 
> watching)  we currently have mid students and they
> get great experience 
> with us because they are supernumary(?) but we are
> unable to take them as 
> grads because we only have two on each shift. If
> they are allocated to a 
> labouring woman there will not always be someone to
> assist them as much 
> as they may need in the begining as the other sucker
> is caring for the 
> ward full of medical/surgical/paediatric patients.
> For grads who have 
> already been in unpaid education for three years to
> have to take an 
> unpaid grad year is asking alot but that is what
> they may have to 
> consider. Especially the first few years unless you
> can find some 
> sympathetic employers.
> 
> As for the ANF it belongs to the members and all
> those midwives who are 
> members may like to have a say about this issue. The
> union was not happy 
> about PCAs when they were first introduced but they
> can now become 
> members of the ANF. So don't be discouraged by the
> fact that they, as 
> representatives  of all those nurses who don't see
> midwifery as a 
> seperate entity from nursing, aren't celebrating the
> introduction of 
> direct entity. (You know those bloody midwives have
> always been up 
> themselves sort of thing that nurses have been
> saying about midwives as 
> long as I've been a midwife) 
> 
> I think this is an important move for midwifery and
> would like to see you 
> go ahead with it,
> 
> Andrea Quanchi
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