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Hello all,
Regarding Guthries at breast.
I remember years ago a
breastfeeding counsellor voicing her frustration to me about this practice which
is usually done on day 5 the day of discharge from hospital and she explained
that day 6 it's common for breastfeeding counsellors to receive a call from a
mum saying my baby was feeding ok until we left hospital. She then went
onto explain to me that after questioning the mums that this will often coincide
with rough handling during the guthries with a very distressed baby at the
breast.
The counsellor suggested that to remedy the situation for mum
and bub she would often recommend to have a bath with the baby getting the baby
nice and warm and relaxed and offering it the breast for a "recovery"
breastfeed. She claimed that this often worked. The baby has the
opportunity to re-discover the breast under relaxed pleasant conditions at home
in their own bathroom.
I guess it depends on the midwife doing it - if its reasonably
gentle and baby ok maybe breastfeeding at the same time would be ok -
hug to all
Julie
More useless but interesting information
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Just a note on the larynx point you made Jackie
- the speach thing and choking is because at the age of about 18months to 2
years the human larynx drops about an inch and a half to two inches
allowing the development of speach and also allowing us to choke.
This does not drop in monkeys (chimps etc etc) That is why they can't
talk and we can.
Therefore, speach becomes more
understandable at the age of 18months to 2 years and the voice becomes
clearer. Have you noticed that at about 18months the words
suddenly become clearer and the voice changes? - prior to this
drop in position it is harder for an infant to vocalise with words and very
hard to choke (not impossible but unlikely.)
Also, a newborn also does not breath
through the mouth this is to prevent aspiration of milk when learning to
feed. Babies breath through their nose until at least a week old often
older before they "learn" or are able to breath through their
mouth. (That is what we were taught)
Rhonda.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001
10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Guthrie's at the
breast
Just wondering if anybody
out there is aware of any information on performing guthries on the
babies whilst they are at the
breast.
It
is the best way, as far as Mother and child are concerned. As far as I
know, babies are very unlikely to aspirate when they are newborn.
It is only when they get older and start talking that aspiration becomes
more of a problem – Chimpanzees, gorilla’s, etc, never choke
(even as infants) but they also never talk. The tendency for humans to
choke has something to do with the ability we have to talk (larger
larynx?) and we have a protective mechanism when very small to help
avoid this happening – that’s why small children have tiny,
high pitched voices, that develop as they grow.
Anyway, I
don’t think aspiration is an issue. And doing Guthrie's while
breastfeeding is just so much less traumatic for mother and baby (I
know, I insisted on it for my 3rd child – the other 2 I
didn’t know about it).
Birthing Beautifully,
Jackie
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