To share, with Jerry's permission. I have a page on the Birthrites' website
titled Men's Experiences, and Jerry submitted his for inclusion.
Note - Angelica's baby was 4.2kg - a chubby bubby!
BB Jackie Mawson.

------ Forwarded Message
From: jerry Whiting
Subject: RE: Male's Perspective Needed on VBAC

Hello Jackie
You are asking for males to write a bit about
"past caesarean birth experiences and
impending VBAC/EBAC issues."
I am a 58 year old male. In three marriages, I
have fathered 10 children. My last son, was
born by caesarean section to my second wife.
He was our last child together, so there was never
an issue about attempting a VBAC. So you may be
wondering, what is my experience with VBAC?
I am a Midwife. Of the 67 births that I have attended
this year, 2 have been H-VBAC's. Both mom's came
to me, with a different look in their eyes, a look of
worry, uncertainly, and most important, a look of failure.
The mom who most impressed me, was Angelica, a mom
in her early 20's, with 2 little daughters, both born by caesarean
section. When Angelica spoke about her previous caesareans,
you could see the fear in her eyes. The fear was very apparent.
When Angelica spoke about the possibility of a normal home
birth, her face changed dramatically, she smiled, and the beauty
of this change was very invigorating, and enlightening to me.
When Angelica went into labor, I could see that there was still
some self doubt in her eyes. As the intensity of her contractions
grew, so did her self doubt. A neighbour, and I talked to Angelica,
with a lot of encouraging words, and we got her through her self
doubt, and soon, Angelica was holding her new born daughter,
and her smile told us everything, she now had regained her
confidence, in her ability to give birth normally.
I would not trade those moments for anything.
Jerry Whiting
26480 Peach St.
Perris, California, 92570 USA
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* My initial request:

Male's Perspective Needed on VBAC
From: Jackie Mawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just a little request... If any of you wonderful people
could help me I will be eternally grateful.

I think I may have to ask my hubby, and some other 'males'
to write a bit about past caesarean birth experiences and
impending VBAC/EBAC issues. If you can coerce any male you
know (yourself, if you're a guy?) into writing something
about this, I would really appreciate, and honour, all
efforts I receive.

As a woman I find it really hard to understand the male
perspective of birth, (I do try) especially in regard to
VBAC and past birth experiences.

What better way to understand our partners emotions
surrounding these vital life experiences than through the
words of men who have been 'there'. These stories would also
be valuable to share with your partners, to let them know
that they aren't alone in feeling as they do during this
phase in their life (the time of growing a family and
birthing their children).

The men's stories will be included in the next issue of the
Birthrites magazine, and they will also be incorporated into
the Birthrites Website - as a separate page on
caesarean/VBAC birth from a man's perspective.

This whole idea is just so exciting. I can't wait to receive
some stories!!! Please send them on.
Birthing Beautifully,
Jackie Mawson.
------ End of Forwarded Message

Birthing Beautifully,
Jackie Mawson.

Convenor of Birthrites: Healing After Caesarean Inc.
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