well said Carol

Ruth

> From: "Carol Thorogood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Carol Thorogood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:51:37 +1030
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: re Apgars
> 
> Hi
> I don't know why anyone would bother with 10 minute ROUTINE Apgar scoring.
> It's a screening test, not a diagnostic test. Admittedly the 5 minute one is
> a fairly good predictor  of whether or not asphyxia occurred in utero but it
> is not a good predictor of longterm outcomes including cerebral palsy.  Ten
> minutely Apgar scores are sometimes used to indicate if the neonate is
> responding to active resuscitation (but there are better ones).  I'm not
> sure where the quality co-ordinator is getting her/his evidence  from but
> there is plenty of good research to back up the list's claims about  the
> usefulness of Apgar scoring and perhaps that is the best place for 'quality'
> people to base their protocols on rather than trying to prevent litigation
> with more assessments of dubious worth.
> 
> Even arterial and venous pH levels and/or base deficits aren't very good
> predictors about longterm outcomes for most babies although there is a
> tendency to use them routinely for 'defensive or just in case I get sued
> medicine reasons'.  Golly no wonder the health system is broke.
> 
> For healthy newborns breast feeding is far more useful. A baby that can cry
> and sucks at the breast soon after birth is si in all likelihood not
> asphyxiated and is cheerfully making the transition to life in the big
> world. So in terms of quality auditing a more meaningful assessment is to
> write that the infant sucked well at the breast 'cause a compromised babe
> can't suck. Why do so many people try to make such a normal event as
> birthing so abnormal? Sometimes I think midwifery is quickly  becoming
> little more than a series of multiple assessments which are carefully
> documented on an ever increasing array of forms - probably at least 10 times
> in ten different places. The irony of it all is that most of it is quite
> meaningless.
> 
> Carol
> 
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