Yes I agree Leigh, it is the jaundice in the first 24 hrs that is concerning 
with this baby and hopefully the concern with meconium passage was not a red 
herring. It does seems that the obvious potential causes of hemolysis in the 
baby (and hence, jaundice): Rh factor and ABO incompatibility were ruled out 
by the mother's blood group and type: B+. There could be several other 
syndromes involved all of which are quite rare (Gilbert's syndrome comes to 
mind, never seen it just read about it, in relation to early jaundice). 
However, it seems that starting simple and as gentle as possible can be a 
good thing (removing the mec), while keeping a careful eye on the baby. Was 
there  any reason for the baby to have experience bruising or hemmorhage? 
Kirsten, was this the end of the story? Was the delayed passage of mec in the 
first day responsibel for the jaundice? And while I know any jaundice in the 
first 24 hrs is a concern, how extensive was it? The only baby I personally 
have seen who had some jaundice on the first day which increased over the 
next week was with a mom who developed fulminating HELLP syndrome in labor 
(we had transfered to the hospital for failure to progress at 3-4 cm but no 
concerning BP's). On arrival at the hospital her BP was more elevated than it 
had been but still less than 140/90. When it didn't dip after she had an 
epidural the OB ordered PIH labs (actually apologizing for being conservative 
and CYA). She was as surprised as all of us when they can back elevated. Here 
we use mag sulfate for preventing seizures, so our poor mom had to put up 
with the side effects during pushing (she went to complete in 2 hours after 
getting the epidural). She birthed her lovely 8 lb baby in about 45 minutes. 
There was heavy mec at birth and baby did need some resusc. but was really 
quite fine (Apgars 7/9). The hospital staff were fastidious about checking 
the baby for jaundice and when he did yellow up on the first day checked his 
bilirubin levels, they were not at a level requiring therapy but they were 
high and went higher. The parents actually refused phototherapy, and the baby 
did recover after losing weight down to 7lb in the first week, and causing us 
all some concern (they discharged on day 2, we visited on day 3 and called in 
the pediatrician to assess the baby, bili levels were high and borderline 
(sorry I can't remember the numbers or the units)) but the parents were 
convinced all would be ok, and it was, once the milk really came in, but he 
was always pooping (right from birth) and peeing and nursing around the 
clock. Long story. 

I  searched the net for associations of newborn jaundice and HELLP syndrome, 
and all I found was an association, but no explanation. I am assuming that 
one of the enzymes that causes hemolysis in the mum can cross the placenta 
and cause hemolysis in the baby, but I am making that up. Does anyone know or 
does no one know? Associating jaundice with the baby of a mom with 
fulmimating HELLP  seemed to be tacit knowledge on the postnatal ward at the 
hospital, but maybe they check bili levels on all their babies (I am sure 
they check on all those jaundiced in the first 24 hrs). This mom too had no 
blood incaompatibility problem she is A+.

marilyn
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