I support all of you who are defending this program against the "attack" by 
was it Dr. Mudge. However, I would like to offer a note of caution. Australia 
is not the Netherlands in many ways though many of its health care programs 
are excellent. Howeverthere seems to be simultaneously an attempt by US based 
healthcare corporations to get get involved in healthcare in Australia. These 
corporations are entirely profit based (not that I think profit in itself is 
a big evil, but I do think social responsibility is critical in health care) 
and will erode  great programs by cost cutting and diminishing services. This 
happened to early discharge programs in the US and continues to this day. 
Women can be discharged from 6 hours after a spontaneous vaginal birth or as 
soon as they are stable. The federal government had to pass a law making it 
illegal for hospitals to discharge women and babies before 48 hours after the 
birth. The women get another 24 hours if they had a c/s. Of course they get 
no follow up care other than phone numbers to call if they are concerned. 
They can initiate care, but it is not offerred to them. I guess my note of 
caution to early discharge programs is that support services are GLUED to 
them as I believe (without any RCT's at my finger tips) that they are 
critical to mother and baby's well being. Oh! all of the above is not true 
about midwifery led programs in the USA. I am talking about normal mainstream 
OB led care.  marilyn
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