You might like to read what Dr Nils Bergman has to say on this subject.
(Yes, him again! ;-)  He makes a big distinction between *sucking* and
*suckling*, pointing out that even very prem babies can *suckle* from a
breast even though unable to *suck* from a teat.

He's certainly worth a read.

Brenda Kittelty

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From: Rhonda
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; P & A Koziol
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: prem care


When Katelyn was born at 27 weeks I was informed that the sucking reflex
begins to establish at 32 weeks - lately I have heard lots of people say it
is 35weeks.
Where is the evidence they are basing this on - Katelyn breast fed from 33
weeks and came home at 36 weeks.  At 33 to 34 weeks she would lay sucking
her hands - she sucked a very small dummy at 30 weeks in NICU where the
nurses said that this helped her to develop the sucking refex - babies in
the womb suck their hands etc from quite early and if this is developed and
encouraged then Breast feeding should follow.
Some how in the past 8 yrs the reflex has gone from 32 weeks to 35 weeks -
is this medically proven?  OR is this just medical jargon to keep the baby
from the mother for longer?
Any statistics and studies would be interesting to see.

Rhonda


-------Original Message-------

From: P & A Koziol
Date: Saturday, 27 April 2002 08:13:39 PM
To: ozmidwifery
Subject: Fw: prem care

Dear Jan
I have some info  which may help to fill in the big picture so that you and
your client can work through this problem.
Most SCN will give parents the info not to expect to be able to take their
babe home until his feeding reflexes are fully developed, and that this may
take up until his 'due date'. However if this babe is now 35 weeks he may
well be developing his feeding reflexes- some babes born at 35 weeks thrive
from birth
According to current feeding regimes his "quota" will be either 46 or 56 mls
every 3 hours. He will be offered this amount at 3 hourly intervals not
because it is when he is ready for a feed but because it is in accordance
with feeding regimes suitable for most infants at this stage. Some will wake
for feeds but many will not and will only take a small feed which may or may
not be enough to sustain healthy development.
If he is alert enough to take the breast for at least 10 minutes and milk
transfer is audible during feeding why are staff gavaging pc the bf?
Perhaps offer this milk via spoon or cup to appetite ie till the babe goes
to sleep
Consider offering all feeds other than bf via cup or spoon- sure it may take
a little longer but will not cause nipple confusion in a small preterm
infant who is just starting to learn how to suckle. Nipple confusion is
never predictable but it is easier to prevent by not offering alternative
nipples. This will also establish whether or not this infant is going to
become exhausted with self feeding- if he is able to stay awake long enough
to take his 'quota' he is probably ready to bf all day every day in his own
home.
Is it possible for the mother to feed more than once per day? If the babe is
able to take 3-4 breast feeds in a row without tiring he can probably manage
bf all day, again in his own home.
Nursery staff will have concerns over continued health and development and
unfortunately this can only be 'measured' by weight gains but needs to be
considered in line with feeding performances and other indicators of
wellness eg sleeping/wakefulness patterns.
Are there any staff who will listen to a feeding plan that you could develop
together (mother/midwife/scn staff) which could be tried for a day or two,
measured and then an agreement to send babe home?

Hope this helps your client

Alesa

Alesa Koziol
Clinical Midwifery Educator
Melbourne



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