Re: [ozmidwifery] Gloria Lemay

[Marilyn Kleidon]

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I went to the site again this morning and was able to get to the forum on 'legal battles and birth policies'. It takes awhile so I downloaded the 4 pages if anyone would like me to send them a copy off list as they would be attachments (4 of them). The father has now posted a new comment. The postings cover a range of topics including regulation of midwifery, lay midwifery, different cultural interpretations of individual and collective rights, informed consent/informed choice, midwifery interventions/non-intervention in labour (ARM, cervical stretching, FHT monitoring and interpretation) guidelines for transfer and many, many others. All very very hot topics as well as very interesting. The father's story (the current one, I didn't see the first one) is heart rentching (sp?) and I would tend to agree with Rochelle's first assessment of the midwifery care. However, it is difficult to have a discussion about something without everyone having the same info. Since I have downloaded the info I could post some of it here if people are interested: just a cut and paste job, I don't know if that infringes any copywright laws though. The father's letter would just be a long post. I wont do it without a go ahead.   One issue that does come up for me is prolonged labor, how long is too long? When does it become obstructed labour?  marilyn  --- Original Message ----- From: Vicki Chan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Gloria Lemay I went and had a look last night...the father's comments had been removed as considered inappropriate but there were many more letters on the subject... great unrest in midwifery in Canada it seems or medwifery as some are calling it :(...we have to go sooo carefully..keep the women at the centre of every decision made... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Gloria Lemay Hi Rochelle: I am trying to figure out if it is the midwifery today site or my computer, but I was stuck at "forum" after clicking on it for 20 minutes and didn't get any further. I will try again later. marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy & Rochelle To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 5:36 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Gloria Lemay Dear List,   Just clarifying the details of the Web site mentioned in my previous email.  Take the following steps;  First, go to www.midwifery.com  On the left hand side of the home page is a blue menu.  Within this menu is a heading, 'Community' and immediately under this heading is a sub-heading, 'Forums'.  Click on 'Forums'  Then scroll down and click on 'Legal Battles and Birth Politics'  A heading appears, 'Midwife Gloria Lemay's Legal Battles'  Immediately under this heading is, 1 2 3 4  Click on 3.  Finally, click on post headed Marc-Dov and dated 16th August, 7:17 (15th entry from top).   Thankyou Marilyn for your reply. Hope this helps.   Regards Rochelle