----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:27
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: ICE ON
SWOLLEN CERVIX !
Just some info on ice: most women are not
temperature sensitive in the vagina and cervix: we just don't have those
particular sensory nerves there. So, all of those "sexy" movies with people
putting ice in their vaginas: for most of us just hype. I always say "most" as
for sure someone will feel it???? Then, an anterior lip is not that big just
one small piece of ice held by a sensitive midwife would be sufficient with
mum in hands and knees. But not too long as remember the mum will not feel ice
on her cervix and so the midwife would have to be the judge. That being said,
I have not done it. Personally, I don't like manipulating cervixes.
If the swollen cervix resolves it does so with the woman in hands
and knees position resisting pushing and it is spontaneous: suddenly the baby
is on view. Just a little more time is all. But, if you have had/seen success
with manipulating cervixes then, I suppose you feel comfortable doing
it.
marilyn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:20
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: ICE ON
SWOLLEN CERVIX !
I have been told about it, never actually seen
it done although I was asked for ice once by another midwife for this
reason, but it was not applied. My concerns were, the effect on the
vaginal tissues of the ice (big enough to grasp but not too big or sharp
corners as to damage vagina), the manoeuvring required to actually apply the
ice ( ie fingers or fist in the vagina) to the correct area and
maintain it there long enough to have any effect, the effect upon the
temperature of foetal scalp & fontanelle that surely must be
pushing against the lip of cervix, potential for infection as with any VE to
say nothing of the effect upon the mother. You'd have to make sure she knew
exactly what you were doing and why and be coherent which can be tricky
around transition! Maybe if a brave research oriented mw could try it
on herself first and report ???? Sorry I'm a bit busy for research at the
moment. Cheers (or should it be chills ?) Laraine
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:17
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: ICE ON
SWOLLEN CERVIX !
Has anyone tried applying 'ice on a
swollen cervix' with a LABOURING WOMAN ? Does this really work
?