Re: [ozmidwifery] Polyhydramnios

[Debbie Slater]

Rhonda

Sorry to hear how you feel your son's birth was treated.

I  have suffered polyhydramnios twice, and both because of fetal hydrops.

First time it was undiagnosed, but second time wasn't.  First time, labour was quick, and no real idea there was a problem (apart from the fact that I was 30 weeks).  Second time, it was 6 weeks between diagnosis and birth.  In that case OB and paediatricain were both anxious for me to have a vaginal delivery.  A CS was definately turned down.  I had drugs to minimise the fluid build up, but cord prolopse was never mentioned.  I had ARM at the end of 1st stage, - 2nd stage 8 minutes.  In both cases, I had ARM - waters never broke (and yet for my first pregnancy, they broke before labour).  Unfortunately, for the first case, my son did not  survive ( because of the hydrops), the second is now nearly 9.

Rhonda wrote:

Yes - cord prolaps - I was told that due to the excess fluid I could have my waters break at any time from 31 weeks. I was not kept in hospital and not told to take it easyat all, Not even told at that stage of a risk of cord prolaps (not even told to check for it if my waters broke.) I worked, shopped etc etc - did all normal things - actually ran my own shop and worked at 40+ weeks.   Walking to the hospital from work for a check up where the Ob. felt the head and said that they could break soon or they would do ARM next week.  I left the hospital and walked back to shop - still had no warning of any possible cord prolaps. So when the Ob. decided she wanted to do a c/s due to the risk of prolasp it was my theory that if the waters broke (as I had been told to expect) at work or in the supermarket - cord prolaps may be a real problem - but when I was asking to have ARM as an alternative to c/s in a hospital with the controlled environment  and supposed knowledge supposed trained staff etc  - then it should have been my choice to go with the risk of that -  not them refusing.  Three dr's said that they could and would but were not allowed to treat me - so the one I got wouldn't.  I guess it is just another breach of womens rights - justified by red tape.  Less risk involved with a c/s than the minimal risk of cord prolaps - now I was sure that there was some risk with a c/s??  Sorry - just feeling a bit sarcastic tonight.  regardless of how anyone tries to justify the way I was treated - it still sucks!  george will be 4 next month and somehow his birthday is a hard time for me.  Most of the year I manage to forget but his birthday is a very sad time for me.    Rhonda.     -------Original Message-------   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 21, 2003 18:38:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Polyhydramnios   I think that because polyhydramnios can be a symptom of serious disorders usually with the baby this is a good reason to investigate with scans and blood tests. Once this is done one can assume it is a normal variation (rather than deviation) of pregnancy. However, I do think, it is reasonable and important to try to rule out possible disorders/problems that may be able to be corrected when detected. One good reason for not doing ARM with polyhydramnios is possible cord prolapse especially if the head is not engagged.   I have been quiet for a while due to my laptop getting infected with the blasterworm. So, I was able to get my emails but it would shut down really quickly plus I didn't want to risk sending it to anyone. My firewall is now supposed to be activated and my computer is dewormed and virus free. AGAIN!! Perhaps I should read those emails from microsoft and install updates!!! ummm!!!   marilyn     ----- Original Message ----- From: Rhonda To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Polyhydramnios I had Polyhydramnious with my second - at 29 weeks was told that "false" pre term labour was caused by the fact that my uterus was already the size it should be at 40 weeks. At 36 weeks I was larger than a woman I knew who was 38 weeks with twins. ( both 6lb+ born!).    By 42 weeks I was very uncomfrotable, one meter twenty five around my stomach,  then and Dr's refused to do ARM - perhaps they were worried they would be 'drowned'.  LOL After subsequent c/s - apgars were 9 and 10 Never a problem with 8lb 10 oz baby.  Then was told I may not have had Polyhydramnious anyway - maybe it was just a lot of fluid (clever ob.)  Anyone know the difference? Had my first at 27 weeks due to severe P.E.   Good luck to her - maybe a sling to help with the muscles if her tummy gets heavy - something nobody told me about.   Rhonda        -------Original Message-------   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 21, 2003 01:50:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Polyhydramnios   In my own personal experience of polyhydramnios there was problem with my baby (hydropic with pleural effusions and ascites). Intrauterine shunts corrected the problem and his was born at 36 weeks. The labour was completely without a hicup. Debbie Sheena Johnson wrote: >Does anyone have any experience with polyhydramnios in an otherwise normal >pregnancy. All the scans and blood screens have come back negative. There >are conflicting dates between 36 to 38 wks, measuring 37wks at midwives >clinic and 38 wks at GP/Obs surgery,challenge also negative. Mum has had a >previous 22wk induced abortion for severe spina bifida, but with a different >partner and has one health child with this partner. Just wondering how >common extra fluid is and how much is too much. 8 wk scan results being >chased up as taken interstate. > >Sheena Johnson >Midwifery Student > >-- >This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. .

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