Re: [ozmidwifery] Hypno birthing

[Andrea Quanchi]

I only hope they republish the original edition not the american edition 
which is very different. I recently bought an original in a second hand 
bookshop for $3 and was thrilled wth my find
Andrea Q
On Saturday, March 13, 2004, at 01:36  AM, Debbie Slater wrote:

For anyone who's interested ..

I have just heard from  fellow National Childbirth Trust antenatal 
teacher
in the UK that she and her partner (who run a small publishing firm) 
have
bought the rights to republish "Childbirth Without Fear" - it has been 
out
of print for some years.

Debbie Slater
Perth, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diane Gardner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hypno birthing

Wow Andrea, what a biased approach. Sorry but I can't agree with you. 
You
obviously haven't grasped the concept of HypnoBirthing at all.

"The modern interpretation of his work (Grantly Dick Read) has evolved
into
"hypnobirthing" which attempts to use autosuggestion and relaxation
techniques learned in the pregnancy as aids to a pain free labour."
The body automatically slows itself down creating more hormones in its
approach to birth and we are finding more and more that women are 
working
against the body's natural ability, working longer and pushing against
this
natural relaxation. Encouraging the body back into this relaxation 
puts it
back at ease. At no time is it claimed with HypnoBirthing that birth 
WILL
be
painfree although many times it is but certainly women are much more
comfortable during their labours.
"There is no evidence that a pain free labour is a normal labour, and
indeed
the essential and necessary feedback mechanism from the contractions
(often
experienced or described as pain) is important for a safe, natural 
birth."

There is no evidence either that pain is an absolute necessary for a 
safe
natural birth and our women certainly know when to work with their
contractions. They are not spaced out or unaware of what is going on
around
them.

It's such a shame that you couldn't talk with HypnoBirthing mothers to
really find out THEIR truth rather than just writing it from an 
observers
point of view. It's very sad that in our present environment Childbirth
Education Classes run by many major hospitals (can only speak for
Melbourne)
are not preparing women well  to give birth but doing their best with 
the
liability restraints now out there. This is in no way bagging the 
people
who
teach them only the rules they have to follow. Sorry I am not meaning 
to
tread on any toes here.

I know that so many women just do not know what giving birth is really
about
and a lot is due to our present society demands and not having the peer
support around them any more. I attended a class where 2 hours were 
spent
discussing complications. If the couples weren't programmed when they 
went
in, they certainly were when they walked out. Their faces told a a very
sad
story.

I do not take what I do lightly and can only speak with what I HAVE
observed. Women deserve to have the birthing they want to have and if 
that
is working towards being more comfortable during labour then it IS 
their
choice. I and many others have made wonderful observations of birth 
over
the
years and women learn HypnoBirthing because that's what THEY want to do
not
because we force them to do it.

I take pride in the fact that I DO have an open mind and I certainly am
not
naive about birth.



Diane Gardner



----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hypno birthing

I've been having a long running discussion about hypnobirthing on my
Diary.
If you want to read the responses from the US contingent of
hypnobirthers
check out the entries and comments that were added in February. I also
wrote some follow up pieces on endorphins and midwifery care that
related
to this issue.

It is a hot issue for many people, but I still think that it is the 
type
of
care that these women seek out (midwives and often home birth) and the
action of their own hormones (endorphins) that is enabling them to
labour
well rather than any learned technique. IF they want to ascribe their
success to a technique rather than their own innate abilities (and pay
for
someone to convince them of this during their pregnancy) then that is
their
choice, of course.

Regards,

Andrea



At 10:07 AM 11/03/2004, Judy Giesaitis wrote:


This sounds interesting, is there a website for further information
available please??  Judy Giesaitis.
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