How true, enjoy it, love, Liz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jen Semple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Students, training and other things was Re: uterine rupture 1998
> Yes, Liz, I completely agree. Thrilled to hear that > you felt the passion about birth w/o intervention @ > uni as well. > > I guess what I was trying to get to more than anything > else, is just that we have the luxury of time w/ the > BMid. > > Jen > > --- Liz Newnham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jen, > > I am just concerned that this becomes another 'them > > and us' amongst > > midwives. I am an RN trained midwife, though would > > have done three year B > > mid if it had been available. I am also a home birth > > mother and I feel there > > is an expectation that RN trained midwives somehow > > do not carry the same > > philosophies of normal birth. The university I > > trained at for my mid was > > passionately non-interventionist, and I have to say > > the theory-practice gap > > was huge for us too, all interventionist practice > > being experienced on > > placement. > > > > As Trish, quoting Nicky, so eloquently said, "a > > midwife is a midwife is a > > midwife". All of the amazing independent midwives > > that I have met, worked > > with, workshopped with were mostly all trained in > > Australia in the last 30 > > or so years. Which means they were nurses first. The > > most vocal of our > > university lecturers who have pushed for B Mid fall > > into the same category. > > > > I can see what you are saying Jen, and yes, I would > > have preferred to have > > had the midwifery training that you have had, but I > > don't find it any more > > difficult, I shouldn't think, to be comfortable with > > non-interventionist, > > natural birth. It is a deep part of my being, and I > > am just as passionate > > about it as those lucky enough to have done a three > > year B-Mid degree. I > > think we need to be wary about the systemic > > horizontal violence that occurs > > in midwifery, as in other oppressed groups (i.e. mid > > has been historically > > oppressed in this country both by the medical and > > the nursing professions), > > and we need to work together to change the system of > > maternity care in this > > country no matter where of how we trained, if we are > > passionate about this. > > That is precisely why the three year B mid is so > > vital, and political, > > because it forms part of an historical change for > > the autonomy of midwifery. > > > > Good luck with finishing your course, > > Liz. > > Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. > http://au.movies.yahoo.com > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
