Me too,
Liz.
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From: "leanne wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Re: Maggie Banks midwifery intensive


> Hi Andrea,
> Would it be possible for Maggie to come to Adelaide? - I'd be there in a
> flash!!
> Leanne.
>
>
> >From: "ID & AC Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re: Maggie Banks midwifery intensive
> >Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:15:04 +1100
> >
> >Andrea
> >I would definately be interested in doing it in Melbourne next year and I
> >know my friend Helen would too. I may also be able to drum up more
interest
> >here in Echuca (I understand you had problems recently so probably arent
to
> >keen on doing it here).  If the number of places in each session is only
14
> >any chance of arranging a rural session.
> >
> >Andrea Q
> >
> >
> >Andrea Robertson writes:
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>
> >>These are great programs and you don't have to go to New Zealand to do
> >>them.... we have one available in Sydney in a few weeks (November
25 -27)
> >>and this is a cheaper option!
> >>
> >>There are a few places left - the maximum number we will take is 14. If
> >>there is enough interest, we'll look at presenting one of these in
> >>Melbourne next year, maybe Queensland too.... let us know!
> >>
> >>You can find out more about the Sydney program here:
> >>http://www.birthinternational.com/event/intensives2004/index.html
> >>but you will have to be quick to register, as the closing date has
> >>passed....
> >>
> >>Cheers
> >>
> >>Andrea
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 07:02 PM 30/10/2004, you wrote:
> >>>Hi,
> >>>I have just returned from a midwifery intensive held at Maggie Banks
home
> >>>in Hamilton, New Zealand.
> >>>Fantastic venue, great food, and very midwife-centred (not
> >>>obstetric-centred) hands on midwifery skills.
> >>>The workshops are limited to 10 visitors, and our group had 3 from
> >>>Australia and 7 New Zealanders.
> >>>
> >>>We covered shoulder dystocias, breech births, unusual presentations
(cord
> >>>prolapses, shoulder presentations etc), PPHs,resuscitation techniques,
> >>>suturing, and intubation. Most of the work was done through discussion
of
> >>>case scenarios which therefore covered all aspects of the mother and
> >>>baby's wellbeing and it was fascinating being aware of everyone's
> >>>experience in birth as well as their life experiences, and how these
> >>>affected their midwifery decisions and perspectives.(Maggie is the
author
> >>>of "Breech Birth Woman Wise" and "Homebirth Bound" - both available
> >>>through Birth International.)
> >>>
> >>>I was really blown away by the ease of practice in NZ - the midwives
have
> >>>full prescribing abilities, have access agreements to all the hospitals
> >>>and their PI insurance is covered in their yearly subscription to NZ
> >>>College of Midwives.
> >>>I knew all this stuff intellectually, but what I hadn't witnessed
before
> >>>was the way that working in a country where midwifery care is the norm
> >>>becomes so self-affirming for the midwives. One of the newest midwives
> >>>there, had taken on a case-load of 52 births in her first year out,
some
> >>>of them homebirths, and she had received $1950 for each woman she
> >>>assisted (governement paid) , with a $450 extra payment for homebirths
> >>>(which usually goes to the second midwife - a legal requirement at
> >>>homebirths). This translates as over $100,000 for her first year of
work.
> >>>
> >>>It wasn't the money that blew me away, it was the struggle free
attitude
> >>>of the midwives. Why do you need a GP back-up they asked? In NZ the
GP's
> >>>gave up attending births when the midwives were granted their current
> >>>status with rights to prescibe and request pathology etc, so all blood
> >>>tests, swabs, u/sounds etc are all managed by the midwives - if needed
of
> >>>course. When they take a woman into hospital, be that a planned
hospital
> >>>birth or a transfer in from a homebirth, the midwives can simply close
> >>>the door of the hospital room, wait til baby's born, then take the
family
> >>>home when they're ready. No fight, no fuss, but more help there if
> >>>required. Hmmm.
> >>>
> >>>I realise that the NZ midwives and community worked damn hard to attain
> >>>their current work status, and I realise that something similar is what
> >>>we're all working for over here, but boy, was it hard to get on the
plane
> >>>to come back home. And why are all you NZ midwives working over here
when
> >>>you've got such a great system??
> >>>
> >>>I know a number of Australian would-be midwives who are getting their
> >>>wings ready for NZ, and I've also heard that their numerous B(Mid)
> >>>courses are very willing to take in some Aussie counterparts!!
> >>>
> >>>Back to the Midwifery Intensives.
> >>>The cost was about $500 (Aust) plus airfares of  $400-$500 depending on
> >>>who you fly with.  (Freedom Air goes straiht into Hamilton airport from
> >>>most large airports). All other costs are inclusive. Spectacular
setting
> >>>(and a great hubby who cooks superbly), which really helps you to
> >>>understand Maggie's birthing perspective, but also the reality of
> >>>birthing in rural and low risk settings.
> >>>
> >>>Maggie holds these intensives about once every month throughout the
year.
> >>>Check out the website www.birthspirit.co.nz for more details.
> >>>
> >>>Really inspirational, not too scary and a great way to both relax and
> >>>learn.
> >>>
> >>>Sue Cookson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----
> >>Andrea Robertson
> >>Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in Childbirth Education
> >>
> >>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>web: www.birthinternational.com
> >>
> >>
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>
> Leanne Wynne
> Midwife in charge of "Women's Business"
> Mildura Aboriginal Health Service  Mob 0418 371862
>
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