Re: [ozmidwifery] what professional say...

[Jenny Cameron]

Hello Jo The booklet is available online from NHMRC. http://www7.health.gov.au/nhmrc/publications/pdf/cp66.pdf Also Bandolier have some useful articles on ways to present risk etc to consumers and how to understand concepts like odds ratios and confidence intervals for us. Lots of interesting info on the Bandolier site. http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band45/b45-5.html Cheers Jenny   Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACM ProMid Professional Midwifery Education  Service 0419 528 717 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean & Jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:48 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] what professional say... Sorry for the delay…thanks for your post Jenny, it was most interesting.  I would love to get my hands on this booklet from NHMRC.  There is no easy answer on this issue but it is a serious one.  Again thanks for your post! Cheers Jo   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny Cameron Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] what professional say...   Common decency should prevail. It is unethical for health professionals to bully or coerce. I know it is tricky accusing someone of bullying and probably most people don't realise they have intimidated someone but it is important that it is brought to their notice. Consumers have the right to make a formal complaint but it is better to resolve it at the coalface. The process of lodging a formal complaint is stressful on both the accuser & the accused. Healthcare professionals must learn to present information in an understandable and unbiased manner. The NHMRC has a good booklet on "How to present the evidence to consumers'. It is available from the NHMRC or govt bookshops. It is not easy to do this and it does take time to explain. Many healthcare professionals, both midwives and obs/gp's cannot read a research report & evaluate the evidence for themselves. The Cochrane consumer section is useful but healthcare profs have to get real & learn how to read a research report & how to pass this on to their clients. Jenny Jennifer Cameron FRCNA FACM ProMid Professional Midwifery Education  Service 0419 528 717 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean & Jo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] what professional say...   The topic/issue of what doctors and some midwives say to women in the context of arrogance/disrespect/etc is something being discusses in a few forums.  I think it is important for this concern to be addressed but short of taping all that is said to a pregnant/labouring/new mother how do we prove that someone is in the wrong?  Women say the doc was really rude and offensive and the doc says the women misheard/is over sensitive and the doc is ‘let off’ and the woman feels degraded/abused or at least dissatisfied.   Giving women information is imperative but how and who determines the most appropriate way to give this information?    I don’t know the answer…just wanting to generate discussion.   Love to all Jo Bainbridge CARES SA Bloomin Good Birth   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004