Thanks for that Jo, and everyone who has so kindly replied. Well the electric pump is getting a work out, and this woman has managed to express only about 30-40 mls each time, with 2/24 pumping for 6 hours now, but I know it's early days yet. Will check out that homeopathic, thanks for that Jo.
Stay tuned for the next installment, where they are thinking about resorting to Motillium... Tania x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding advice (long) > Tania, > > I always had an either or thing going on between my ovaries and my breasts. Ovulation = NO MILK for me. I had one cycle at 6 months when Isabelle threatened to sleep through and my milk dried up. She went on a feeding frenzy and I didn't ovulate again until she was 2 yrs old, when i weaned her down to 3 (small) feeds/24hrs and promptly lost my supply. I had to fully wean a few months later in a bid to properly stabilise my cycle (which didn't work, more fool me). Between 6 months and 2 yrs there were 2 or 3 times when my body was clearly trying to ovulate and my supply would drop drastically - which Isabelle countered with refusing to sleep and becoming permanently attached to the breast until the supply returned and the hormones re balanced in favour of breastfeeding. > > If it is your friend's instinct that the milk loss is hormonal I would be checking it out even if it doesn't seem that likely. > > At the times when I was loosing my milk the one thing that helped was homeopathic rmedy that I think was called Lac DeFlor definitely "Lac" something. My response to this was absolutely miraculous. > > cheers > Jo > > > At 10:16 AM +1100 2/1/05, Tania Smallwood wrote: > >Thankyou all so much for your wonderful advice, she continues to hand > >express with little milk resulting. I've just organised an electric pump to > >take off the stress of pumping by hand, and have had good advice and > >reassurance from our lovely local ABA group leader. > > > >One question, this woman feels strongly that something hormonal is > >happening. She has had a slight headache for the last few days, which was a > >feature of pregnancy, and attributed to hormonal fluctuations. I'll do her > >bp when I see her in about an hour just to be sure. I'm wondering if she > >might be ovulating, and if this could possibly have such a drastic effect on > >her breastmilk supply. We've ruled out engorgement, no hot spots, no lumps, > >no hardness etc. What do you think? > > > >Thanks so much for your wonderful support > > > >Tania > >x > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sue Cookson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 9:12 AM > >Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Breastfeeding advice (long) > > > > > >> Hi Tania, > >> Just a few quick thoughts: > >> *3 weeks is very definitely a time for all women when milk supply > >> drops/baby becomes unsettled/grows/whatever. It's always a time to > >> watch. (as is 10 days, 6 weeks and often 3 months..) I'd make sure the > >> mother is taking a galactagogue tea like fennel - any mucking around > >> like her supply is getting will affect supply... > >> * How is her uterus and discharge and scar? Sometimes if there is a mild > >> infection , breast milk doesn't taste that good to bub, so I'd explore > >> that one and give Vit C. echinacea and if necessary homoeopathic > >> Lachesis 30 if necessary. > >> * Sounds also as if there could be mild mastitis in that breast - get > >> hold of homoeopathic Phytolacca 30 if the flow doesn't/hasn't changed - > >> it's effect is pretty instantaneous - one dose is usually enough . > >> > >> Hope this helps and good luck, > >> Sue > >> > >> > Hello wise women! > >> > > >> > Wanting a bit of advice if there's anyone who can help... > >> > > >> > I'm supporting a friend with breast feeding at the moment, and > >> > starting to feel a bit out of my depth, even though I've been > >> > breastfeeing my own boys for nearly 6 years now, never really had any > >> > problems that weren't solved with a bit of time and patience... > >> > > >> > Background - 'Jen' had baby by c-section nearly 3 weeks ago, came home > >> > from hospital with baby sl. jauniced , and not attaching or > >> > feeding at the breast much at all, but was given advice to express and > >> > comp bottle feed with ebm and formula. Baby quickly lost interest in > >> > the breast, and began to show definite signs of preferring bottle, > >> > which is when I got a call to help support them. > >> > > >> > Lots of talking about what they want, and it's clear that Jen does > >> > want to breast feed. So last Thursday we started the plan for her to > > > > offer the breast exclusively, and only topping up if she felt it was > >> > really necessary with ebm via a cup, which worked really well. With > >> > some practical support ( I live up the road) she managed to latch her > >> > baby on quite well, and he appeared to be feeding efficiently, and all > >> > was well with the world until this morning. I got a call to say that > >> > he had fed a few times overnight, and that the feeds had been a bit > >> > uncomfortable, but nothing she couldn't handle (remembering this baby > >> > really hasn't spent much time at the breast for the first 2 weeks of > >> > life, but she's been expressing madly). By mid morning, she was > >> > distressed, with a very sore nipple, unable to attach him at all, so > >> > we've started the resting and recouperating on that side, feeding on > >> > the good side, and expressing to keep supply up. > >> > > >> > The problem now is that whilst she's expressing with a hand pump on > >> > the side with the sore nipple (there seems to be a few small surface > >> > blisters), she really isn't getting much out of that breast, and it's > >> > really concerning her that it seems to have stopped producing. I'm a > >> > bit confused too, up until Thursday she was expressing up to 150 mls > >> > after a feed, and topping him up, then from Thursday he seemed to > >> > be feeding pretty well, and he's been settled, fontanelle's ok, good > >> > wet nappies etc, but now there doesn't seem to be much milk there on > >> > that side, and she's worried that wer'e going to be back in the same > >> > boat tomorrow with not enough milk, and needing to resort to formula. > >> > > >> > Does anyone have any ideas about why that breast doesn't seem to be > >> > producing? At first I thought it was just that she wasn't letting > >> > down because of the pain and stress, but it's been 6 hours now, with > >> > only a few mls able to be expressed. She's well hydrated, > >> > very stressed out, but trying hard to relax. She'll continue to > >> > express overnight, and I've tried to reassure her that it will start > >> > again, but now I'm getting worried too! > >> > > >> > I'm calling the local ABA counsellor tomorrow, and have access to a > >> > few lactation consultants too, but just wondering if there's anything > >> > simple I"m missing here! > >> > > >> > If you've gotten this far, well done, sorry for the long post. I'd > >> > really appreciate any advice or words of encouragement, I'm sure we're > >> > on the right track, I've spoken to a LC and ABA counsellor today, and > >> > they both agreed with the plan of action, but I'm just feeling a bit > >> > like I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing... > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > Tania > >> > >> > >> -- > >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > >-- > >This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > Jo Bourne > Virtual Artists Pty Ltd > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
