Re: [ozmidwifery] epidural research

[Marilyn Kleidon]

I still think it's all about marketing, isn't everything these days. I hate to be cynical and try to be sceptical... but I really think we are in a turf war with the obstetricians (not all of them but with their professional association aka AMA) and anaesthetists over normal women and normal labour and birth. Because the overall birth rate is low  we have a smaller and smaller pool to divide up. So this research is used to convince normal healthy women to choose services they don't need. When we counter such arguments we need to be careful we don't fall into traps that further enable them to promote their product: pain free technological birth as safe as liposuction (name any plastic surgery that is now marketed as "cosmetic" surgery). We had TV shows that promote drastic surgery on otherwise normal people for superficial purposes. Please note just as there are many valid reasons for c/s and pain relief in labour there are many valid and life changing reasons for plastic surgery, we live in an amazing world, it is just that the marketeers are running rife and we have to be very careful... Just my opinion.   marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: Michelle Windsor To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 5:26 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] epidural research Dean and Jo wrote:  I seriously question the validity of the research being done these days! I know what you mean Jo, and I seriously question some of the interpretation of research.  Some of the medical profession take any study that suits them and quote it as evidence based practice.  Today I went to an inservice on CTG's and outcomes from a study done in Dublin were quoted -  apparently the largest ever study on outcomes of CTG monitoring versus intermittent, involving over ten thousand women.  I haven't heard of this study (has anyone else?) but it supported the use of continuous monitoring and supposedly didn't increase their caesar rate.  I find it hard to believe especially when they went on to talk about the 50%-70% false positives for fetal distress with CTG's.  Michelle   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailtoo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kylie Carberry Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:13 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] epidural research   Hi everyone, Just thought you all may be interested in a press release I found on the net and wanted to see what everyone thought.  I just gave my first-time pregnant sister-in-law a run down the risks of epidurals as she was very quick to say she will request one (of course her OB encouraged her, saying if I was a woman I'd have one....needless to say this made me cringe), what can I tell her about this new research.   Early epidural does not raise c-section risk Last Updated: 2005-02-16 17:00:33 -0400 (Reuters Health) NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Women in labor who need early pain relief need not fear that an epidural makes it more likely that they'll have to have a cesarean. Compared with intravenous narcotic pain control, new research shows, epidural pain control started in early labor does not increase the probability that women will undergo a c-section. Moreover, an early epidural seems to provide better pain control and may shorten the duration of labor. Previous reports have linked epidural analgesia with an elevated risk of cesarean delivery, but it is possible that this increased risk was due to related factors and not to the epidural per se, the researchers note in this week's New England Journal of Medicine. To determine if epidural pain control is an inherent risk factor for c-section, Dr. Cynthia A. Wong, from Northwestern University in Chicago, and colleagues assessed the outcomes of 750 pregnant women who received epidural pain control or intravenous hydromorphone started in the early stages of labor. In contrast to previous reports, the c-section rate in the epidural group was actually slightly lower than that seen in the comparison group: 17.8 versus 20.7 percent. There was evidence that epidural pain control hastened delivery. The time from the start of pain control until delivery was significantly shorter in the epidural group. In addition, epidural anesthesia was associated with significant improvements in pain and with better Apgar scores, the system used to evaluate infants in the first minutes of life. In a related editorial, Dr. William Camann, from Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, comments that for women who experience severe pain in early labor and desire pain control, the new findings "make it clear that safe, effective pain relief with the use of (epidural pain control) should not be withheld simply because" they haven't passed some arbitrary stage. SOURCE: New England Journal of Medicine, February 17, 2005. Copyright � 2005 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. 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