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Thanks Nicole..
How is the baby doing?? I
hope the parents are ok too.
From my own experience....much
fuss is made of those of us that dont vaccinate...but little is made
of adverse reactions ..or even if vaccinated kids then go on to develop the
disease that they are "protected" from. I was involved in a so called
epidemic of measles 2 years ago. All of the kids unvaccinated were reported when
they got measles..none of those that were vaccinated were. Its scandelous.
Figures were definately tweaked.
It must be really tough for
you hope it goes well with your manager on monday. Could you offer to help
rewrite the info given? I had a peek at the site in SA earlier and that looked
great!
Good luck,
lisax
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:08
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B vaccine
reaction
Hi Lisa,
I don't believe the baby was at risk of catching
Hepatitis B. Which means it will be absolutely tragic if the side effects are
long reaching. I don't believe I would be forced to give a vaccine if I didn't
want to do it. I would probably be able to ask a colleague to do it if I was
unable to do it. However, I have to think about this. I will be seeing the
manager on Monday, as I am not happy with the level of information parents
receive, and we do know the carrier status of all the mothers. I do know
though that the government monitors compliance of maternity units with giving
Hep B vac, and it could attract unwelcome attention if the rate of vaccination
goes down in our unit. This is not a reason not to do it, but may have
implications. There is an adverse reactions register for vaccination, which I
have mentioned to the medical staff caring for the baby.
Nicole.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:33
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B
vaccine reaction
Thats really interesting
Nicole, thankyou!
Coming from the uk, I know my
case,,and can state it..but being here I have found a high uptake off
vaccinations amongst babies and children..and have already had to sign all
sorts to get my children into school. I do believe in parents making
informed decisions..but often found the info available is biased..(in both
directions!)
As a midwife...if your beliefs
were such....could you refuse to vaccinate babies?
And to clarify for me... if a
mother is not carrying hep B...how would a baby contact
it? Through a blood transfusion?
Do you have to report reactions
like that?
Hope you dont mind me
asking,..
lisax
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:11
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B
vaccine reaction
Hi Lisa,
Welcome to Australia!
Hepatitis B vaccine has been given routinely
at birth now for maybe five years. One of the most common causes of
Hepatitis B is contracting it from your mother at birth, if she is a
carrier.I believe the practice of Hep B vaccination at birth came
about because there were cases of babies of known Hep B carriers who
did not receive immunoglobulin and vaccination at birth, also because the
conversion to Hep B carrier status is very high if you contract the
disease in infancy. When universal hep B administration came in, most
midwives were not happy, but it was still introduced. The doctors order it
and the parents are given an information sheet to read, which I
believe does not give the whole picture (including that if the birth dose
is not given, the baby still gets a full course by having Hep B vax at
2,4, and 12 months of age). Parents sign a consent form, and then the
vaccine is given if they wish to proceed. I like to give the parents the
risk factors for contracting Hep B, and the information about the normal
immunisation schedule, and let them decide. All the women have their Hep B
and C status checked antenatally, and are likely to know if they are
a carrier. Many ask what the majority of parents do and are guided by
that. Most parents at this stage are going ahead with it.
While I can't prove that the incident I
experienced tonight was caused by the vaccine, it only occured at the most
10 minutes after the vaccine. I don't know if the baby is contraindicated
for further vaccines, but would be very careful. It probably should be
done at the Royal Childrens Hospital where they have a specialised clinic
for babies who have had vaccine reactions. I am not sure how I will
be able to give the vaccine to another baby after that
experience.
Kind regards,
Nicole.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005
11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hep B
vaccine reaction
Hello
everyone.
I'm fairly new to
Australia, (from the Uk) but have been an avid follower of this
site for some time now.
And, by way of an
introduction..and as a first post I feel compelled to ask about this
vaccine....by my nature, I havnt vaccinated my kids...but as far as this
particular vaccine is concerned....why is it given
routinely??
I ask, because I thought
that hep B was passed on by blood and sex..(to be crude)...what infant
is genuinely at risk of this??
If a baby has a reaction
like this...(hope she is ok!!) does that mean she is contraindicated for
future vaccines??
Many thanks,
lisa
Perth
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005
7:48 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Hep B
vaccine reaction
Hi All,
Have just had a scary experience when a
baby became floppy and stopped breathing three times after the
Hep B vaccine. She is ok, but being observed for 24 hours in special
care. It just reinforces my belief that giving all babies Hep B prior
to discharge from hospital is unnecessary, and where there are no risk
factors present, more dangerous than not giving it.
Nicole
Carver.
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