Hi Isis

Why would anyone want to subject the poor little fetus to such torture just to prove a point?
There are plenty of fetal epidermal cells and lanugo present in amniotic fluid if proof is needed. As for the head-down thingo, can't they palpate?

What a bunch of sadists!
Perhaps one day a woman will sue the practitioners for assault or fetal abuse?
Jan

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On 29 Mar, 2005, at 10:10, JoFromOz wrote:

Isis Caple wrote:

Hi ladies,

Can anyone shed some light on this procedure for me please?

A pair of flat bladed (like tweezers) scissors being used to perform an amniotomy with the possibility of fetal scalp hair and skin being ‘pulled’ at the same time.

A good friend of mine only recently shared this experience with me about her son’s birth (August 2003). Apparently she and her husband were warned that hair and/or skin may be pulled, if hair was pulled it was a good indication of the babe being head down. After the procedure was performed, her son’s hair was presented to them on a piece of cardboard.

This was verified by another woman who overheard and shared her similar experience. I have never heard about this procedure, I can’t find reference to it in any of my texts, or on the net. I must be looking in the wrong areas.

Thanks- Isis

I remember this... the large teaching hospital I did my training in in Melbourne used to use allegator forceps to do ARMs. When new doctors were learning the ARM technique, the plucking of a foetal hair was 'proof' that the infact, had ruptured the membranes. I can still hear them now..."I got a foetal hair..."

Horrid.

Jo (RM)

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