RE: [ozmidwifery] face presentation

[Mary Murphy]

Hi Emily, I have a client who, back home in Wales 3 years ago, delivered a 3.8kg face presentation on the bed while everyone was running around organizing a C/S.  Scared the life out of her husband who wasn’t expecting a bruised, swollen faced baby to appear. The baby had no problems other than being unable to attach on the breast for a few days due to his swollen lips.  Cheers, MM   From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Emily Sent: Tuesday, 7 June 2005 2:37 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] face presentation   what she meant by mechanically was that she thought the babes actually couldnt be born vaginally ie mechanically impossible to fit out ! not referring to instrumental delivery she thought categorically that face presentation was an absolute indication for caesar/forceps.   yes it seems people who talk of delivering women and babies really do seem to do that. i wonder how much difference it would take if this language was changed? just simple things like people often say 'im going to deliver a baby' rather than 'im going to help a woman birth/deliver her baby.' simple words that would presumably make women feel much more in control and important in the whole process, rather than a bystander who is 'delivered'   here is that photo diary http://www.birthdiaries.com/diary/face.htm   Janet Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know what mechanically delivered means unless they mean using instruments. However the radmid site has great links to stories and pics of face presentations. J   Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM & more. Check it out!