"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing"
Edmund Burke
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 6:47
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
physiological 3rd stage
Dear Sue
Who is it you want the evidence for woman or
the Ob?
The women has accept the dr's scaremongering
I think both need information on what is
informed consent
And she needs to be reminded to trust her own
god given body's ability to give birth which if she were in many other
"undeveloped" countries would not be questioned
see the Health Consumer's Council pages and
leaflets
and as you sad on the cascade of Intervention
I can hear it in operation from
here!!
Denise Hynd
"Let us support one another, not just in philosophy but in action, for
the sake of freedom for all women to choose exactly how and by whom, if by
anyone, our bodies will be handled."
Linda Hes
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:03
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] physiological
3rd stage
Dear list-wives
Have just had a frustrating 'discussion' with
one of our obs. A woman has written a very clear birth plan stating that
she wants no interventions unless absolutely necessary. The
'problem' being that she is a JW and will not accept a transfusion under
any circumstances. The said obs was of the opinion that she should
not be 'allowed' the choice of physiological 3rd stage in this case
so as to prevent the risk of haemorrhage.
I wonder if any of you know of any studies
into physiological 3rd stage that I can use here? There is plenty of
'evidence' about the 'wisdom' of prophelactic use of oxytocics, but
naturally the doctors, and sadly very few midwives, have any experience of
expectant management of third stage.
I am quite upset about the attitude displayed
here that the woman's informed wishes are not being respected, but of
course got no-where in trying to discuss this. This girl is no more
likely to bleed than any other person, but she has now been 'persuaded' to
alter her birth plan. The trouble is she now has a raised BP at term
and has been admitted. I can almost hear the 'cascade'
starting!
Any good evidence gratefully
recieved.
Regards, Sue
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of
evil is for good men to do nothing"
Edmund Burke
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