That what I assumed but the woman's words don't make it clear :D J ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] broken collar bone & subsequent birth
> The collarbone could have been broken by the dr pulling too hard on the baby > before the shoulder had rotated. Rushing a birth and using excessive force > can do this. However, I wasn't present, so it is hard to guess. That is a > question the dr should answer for you. MM > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser > Sent: Friday, 24 June 2005 7:31 AM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] broken collar bone & subsequent birth > > Yes to what everyone else said :D It's still not entirely clear how the > collar bone was broken, or am I missing something? > > I would add in - > > * practising optimal foetal positioning for the last weeks and in labour > through upright positions thereby helping bubs into a great anterior possie. > * getting hold of the Pink Kit - I can lend by post if required as Joyous > Birth has one - so that the best possible positions for birth are apparent > and the little extras like the sit bones or hip lift manoeuvres are known by > the mama and her support people. > * bear in mind that babies will only grow as big as your body allows so > Gloria Lemay's "Pelvises I've known and loved" will be very helpful in > dispelling the Big Baby myth propogated by obstetric practices. > Incidentally, baby #1 wasn't early but right on time. Babies know their own > birthdays ;-) > * if still planning to go to hospital, don't forget that going as late as > possible reduces the number of possibly interventions, Henci Goer's article, > "Go later and avoid interventions" has great information on this. > * have support people clued in about the vital importance of upright > positions in labour, and start practicing them now. If you're lying down, > your coccyx can't pop out of the way and let a baby slide past almost > regardless of the size of the baby. Upright and open positions will give > that bubby at least 10% more room so imagine how roomy her pelvis must be to > get that beautifully sized baby through in a squashed position! > * remember that major surgery is almost never preferable to a vaginal birth > for either mothers or babies. You can't guarantee what will occur in a > caesarean that won't lead to major complications and a much longer recovery > time than anticipated. Not to mention the normal issues of grief, possible > PTSD, longterm bf problems, bonding issues, depression, the costs of formula > and counselling, you name it. And the risks to a healthy baby of a caesarean > are far greater than those of a wellsupported vaginal birth. > > On a side note, I'm always intrigued that consumers will often trust a > surgeon to cut their baby out but not trust that surgeon to catch their baby > safely in a vaginal birth. Perhaps there's a logic in there I don't > understand? > > I'm happy to offer specific suggestions for birth plans or any of that > stuff. > HTH, > Janet > Joyous Birth > Home Birth Forum - a world first! > http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/ > > Accessing Artemis > Birth Trauma Recovery > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
