thanks for the information regarding the gaskin manouvere i agree that is what 
we do i didnt realize it had a name. 
regards sharon.

---- Ceri & Katrina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> The Gaskin is a 'midwifery' manoevure, and was pioneered by Ina May 
> Gaskin,  so not talked about (at least where I work) in conjunction 
> with the McRoberts and Rubins etc. It is where you get the woman to go 
> over on all fours. We have one midwife that actually believes it is the 
> movement, rather than the all fours, she finds if the woman is 
> semi-recumbent, then all fours is good. And if the woman is already on 
> all fours then she gets her to flip back to semi recumbent which in 
> most cases is all that is needed.
> 
> Hope that helps. I think (?) a lot of midwives  probably do this 
> manoevure, but just did not know it had a name.
> 
> Katrina
> 
> 
> On 25/06/2005, at 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >  hi can some one enlighten me about the gaskin manoeuvre  i have been 
> > taught the rubiks and the woods screw but havnt heard of the gaskin 
> > manovure.
> > thanks  sharon
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- Janet Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Can I ask, is the bone breaking manoeuvre being employed AFTER the 
> >> Gaskin Manoeuvre has been unsuccessful?
> >> Thanks.
> >> J
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: Mary Murphy
> >>   To: [email protected]
> >>   Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 3:52 AM
> >>   Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] broken collar bone & subsequent birth
> >>
> >>
> >>   Jennifer wrote: A # clavicle is not a big issue in a
> >>
> >>   neonate and doesn't necessarily mean excessive force was used. The 
> >> neonates
> >>
> >>   bones are pliable and the # is usually a 'greenstick' or partial 
> >> break or
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   Well, I have NEVER seen a #clavicle in 26 yrs of both hospital & 
> >> home midwifery, even in big babies where some force has been used.  
> >> MM
> >
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