Wow, thanks for that!  Both my babies have done exactly this, and the more
waterbirths I see, the more this stopping and resting at the hips becomes
evident to me.  My colleague and I have never felt the need to pull the baby
out, they come soon after that big stretch, and then mum can pick the baby
up out of the water.  

Thanks for the link to the conference too Lieve, won't be able to make it
unfortunately, between the ICM this year, and a family trip next year...next
time!

Tania
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Look at http://www.midwiferytoday.com/international/germany.asp for
Cornelia Enning, she also is a regular speaker at the conferences of
Midwifery Today. Maybe a good idea to meet each other in Germany in oct
2006 :-)http://www.midwiferytoday.com/conferences/Germany2006/

Groetjes
Lieve


Lieve Huybrechts
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0477/740853


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Onderwerp: [ozmidwifery] Re: just a thought


> The other thing I've seen a lot in water is the baby stopping at the 
> hips,having a big moro reflex under the water and then continuing to 
> birth the buttocks and legs.  Anyone else see this much?

Hi Tania
This opening of the arms and baby flinging back the head is a subject 
that has received study by Cornelia Enning, the waterbirth mw from 
Germany.  She's a regular speaker at Waterbirth International 
conferences and her view is that one should wait for that 'sign' to 
gently lift the baby out of the water.  I think she might have a website

if you do a google search of her name.
Gloria


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