Hoi Jo,
I think you have to consider some issues:

Illnes has become a bad thing. We are afraid of it and we don't see the
heatlthy thing in it anymore. The incidence of real complications in
most of the childrens diseases is very small. We have to vaccinate a lot
of children to prevent one complication. The healthy thing of children's
diseases are that they give the children the chance to grow their
resistance. When a child gets ill and can recover on its own power,
without 'help' of medication like antibiotics, the immuunsystem grows
and can handle more difficult things in the futur. You also see that
children who have been ill have made a large jump in their motoric and
cognitive development. To be ill stimulates not only the immuunsystem

When a child got's ill from a childrens disease it is mostly between 2-4
years old. It can have only one disease at a time. It seems that the
body prevents to retract other diseases. We are vaccinating at 2 months
with 7 diseases at once. I wonder that is the reason why the
immuunsystem doesn't react properly and we have more than once cases of
outbreak of for example measles in vaccinated groups. It is indeed
ridiculous that mothers have to keep their not vaccinated children at
home when there is a case of measles 'to protect the vaccinated
children'. It proves one does not believe in their own vaccinations.

Most vaccinations have to be repeated on regulary times (measles every 9
years) that's easy in children up to 18 and what happens with the
adults?
When a mother had her childrens diseases worked through in her
childhood, the antibodys ar high enough to protect her babys with
breastmilk during their vulnarable babytime. A vaccinated mother does
not have enough antibodys to pass it through in her milk. So the most
vulnerable little children are not protected anymore. That's one of the
reasons the vaccinations are earlier now at 2 months instead of three.

I tried for the birthcentre to invite people of the childrens
consultation from the governement to come and give information about
vaccination for our parents. I also invited a GP from the oganisation
'vaccination damage' to give the information he has. We never found
someone from the consultation ready to answer questions or to explain
their view.
When mothers ask questions about vaccination they get answers as 'you
won't let you child to be sick and die, won't you ?' No real
information, but working on guiltfeelings. It is almost the same as with
hospital and homebirth. It seems we are childrens murderers by not
playing the 'normal' game.

Than there is the matter with the additives. It is not only the viruses
that are given, but they are surroundd by additives who are proven to be
very harmfull for humans. For example, a compleet vacinated child has
already received a lot of times more the amount of mercury than an adult
should have. It also goes for aluminium. That are heavy metals and very
polluting for a human body.

When you see at the pediatric wards, despite of the vaccinations thare
are no less sick children. But the children now are very difficult to
treat with the allergic reactions, astma, ADHD, autisme....
I prefer a child that is ill for a fourthnight and can go on with his
life.

Maybe you have in Australia also an organisation like our 'vaccine
damage' where you can get information about alternatives or more
appropriate ways to handle vaccination than to go for the massa
vaccination. Vaccination shoud be considred for each child individual,
considering the possible healthproblems for that child and the pro and
contra of that vaccin.

I hope to have been of some help
Lieve



Lieve Huybrechts
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Onderwerp: [ozmidwifery] Vaccination


Hi All.

I don't want this to start a war or anything, but I would just like to 
hear people's opinions (and why) on vaccinating babies.  This is the 
week for our first vaccinations (I declined Birth HepB) as William is 2 
months old tomorrow.  We do want to get him vaccinated, it's just a 
matter of when we start, and whether we get them all done together. 

Here is why I'm hesitant:

He is only 2 months old, and not going to be going into any childcare in

the near future (at LEAST 12 months if ever).

It isn't normal for a body to have to produce antibodies to 7 diseases 
all at once - or is it?
I was thinking that it would be better to get only one injection at a 
time so that if he reacts to something really badly, we will know which 
vaccine to avoid next time.

The diseases such as Hep B and tetanus, and Diptheria, etc aren't all 
that likely to find my son just yet - or are they?

However...

Should I just do it and not make a fuss? Just follow the government's 
schedule?
He is in contact with 3 adults who work in schools - would that be a 
reason to vaccinate sooner rather than later?

We have looked at pros and cons, and still can't come up with a concrete

decision.
Any opinions/info would be appreciated!

Thanks,
Jo :)

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