----- Original Message -----
From: "Lindsay & Yvette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jo Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.
Thanks Jo, that's really good to know just in case that happened to me.
I'll mention possible cord prolapse to the midwife & Ob when I see them
next.
Gloria I've seen that website, & seen the stills & read the birth story
though not bought the DVD. I've seen another DVD of a planned twins
homebirth in Melbourne of boy/girl twins, where the second baby was
breech, and it's truly inspiring. The babies were born into water & both
so alert, calm & healthy looking. The website for that one is
http://www.womenofspirit.asn.au/welcome.html
My website for this pregnancy is
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/t/twingirlslb/
where I've been keeping a journal.
Yvette
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jo Bourne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lindsay & Yvette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Encouraging twins into a good presentation.
Hi Yvette,
I hate hate hate conveying less good outcomes on a list like ozmid (or at
all for that matter) so I nearly didn't send this. A friend of mine who
had two previous text book natural births was pregnant with identical
twins in separate sacks for her third pregnancy, she fought very hard to
organise at least the opportunity to birth in her hospitals birth
center - if she made it to term then she was to birth in the birth center
and she alternated her appts with the birth center midwives and her
assigned OB (who was the head of obstetrics). At her 34 week appt her OB
started saying that he thought she would definitely need a ceaser because
of her twins position (transverse and facing each other) but they would
wait one more week to be sure. 2 days later her waters broke with full
cord prolapse at home. With a combination of instinct and what she had
learned at our EXCELLENT yoga classes she shoved the cord back in and got
in the knees chest position (butt in the air head on the !
ground).
When the ambos came (they were there within 10 mins) they tried to force
her to lie down on the trolley thing for the trip to hospital and her
husband had a screaming argument with them on the street to the effect
that lying on her back would kill the babies and she was NOT under any
circumstances going to lie down so they could either take her in the knee
chest position or he would drive her in that position in their own car.
The ambos gave in. She had a ceaser under general literally 3-4 mins
after arrival in the hospital (the closest to her, not her hospital of
choice) and both boys were ok but the OB that did the ceaser told her
that she saved her babies lives by refusing to lie down for the ambos...
So good outcome in the end but very scary and not the birth she had hoped
for. Also once her waters broke and contractions started the contractions
locked the babies together in their transverse positions and neither baby
could move down, she could not have birthed vaginall!
y so the transverse position caused prolapse and prevented her babies
from moving down, it was all round a bad thing for her.
I have been reading your story with interest and cannot tell you how much
I hope that your babies turn and you get the birth you want. I guess I
just wanted to be sure you were aware of the cord prolapse risk if your
waters break while both twins are transverse. The knee chest position
will slow labour down if anything can and takes as much pressure off the
cervix as possible so it is a good thing to know in a precipitous labour
that you need to slow down.
Take care!
Jo
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