Obs are often uncomfortable with noise, or even noiseless but (to their
thinking) unusual behaviour. Today I attended the birth of a lovely multi
who was in 2nd stage for some time but just did not want to push. She was
scared of letting go I think, so I just waited patiently and let her get to
the stage of letting go in her own time, with encouraging words. Much
eye-rolling and side comments from obs - "All she needs is to push!!"
She never did push, eventually her contractions birthed the baby without
maternal effort. She was very quiet throughout. I think there was a lot of
trauma memory from the first birth.
A lovely birth - but why do they always have to 'control' even the most
normal of labours? Sigh!
I think giving the pethidine to the ones who are uncomfortable is a damn
good idea!
Sue
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing"
Edmund Burke
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From: "Kate &/or Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
So how do you challenge a midwife or ob who insists on no noise?
Kate (student midwife)
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From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
Tanya,
There are no implications, only observations.
Some women are pressured into being quiet by caregivers for their own
comfort or concern about other women being scared by noise.
Some women are naturally expressive & others are self-contained.
The issue is that they ought to have the freedom to be however they need
to
be during labour to get the job done.
Women who have to suppress their natural urge to be vocal struggle with
birthing because all there energy is directed inwardly not externally. The
energy is trapped in her body & it just makes her work twice as hard.
Really
difficult to be a MW & be present with women struggling with themselves.
If
being vocal is not what she needs to be that's fine, but it's the freedom
to
choose that we are working towards.
Brenda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tanya Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
What is "self-control"? Are we implying that a woman who is silent in
labour has more or better "self-control" than a vocal woman???? I would
refer to it as expressive.
Tanya.
----- Original Message -----
From: "brendamanning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
So true.
Self control is not always an appropriate thing.
Women who need to be "good" girls( for the reasons we all know about)
have to use alot of self control in labour, it's really hard work for
them, sad.
Brenda
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From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] sounds during labour/birth
one thing that is coming out of literature which asks women about their
fears is that women significantly worry about how they will act in
labour. A huge Italian study found that it is one of the highest rated
fears women have. In my study it is certainly a reason that women use
drugs or epidural, or find relief in that they stop "behaving badly"
once the drugs shut them up/enable compliance. A huge part of womens
reflections of labour iis embarresssment in how they "behaved". I think
this is important to address because the idea of being quiet,
compliant,
neat, tidy as in NOT messy, leaky noisy sweaty - really drives womens
fears and the choices they then make for labour. It is a great shame
that women have particular expectations of their behavior that is in no
way reassuring, okay, normal, wonderful, strong and vital to birth.
Belinda
Luke M Priddis wrote:
Hi all,
I'm a 1st year student midwife in NSW, i have asked a few questions
on
here before! I'm doing a group presentation with a creative arts
element on the sounds women make during labour and birth - eg, how it
can be beneficial, how some women don't make any noise (like myself!),
and what society/media find or portray as being acceptable.
Has anyone come across any research on this, read any good articles?
Thanks for any help you may have, I find this group a fantastic point
of information and inspiration : )
Holly (mum of four)
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