I know OB's who do inform their patients from day 1 and try to avoid taking on women who are due around when they will be away, but at the same time what about the Private OB's who have every second weekend off (or only work every one in 3 weekends) and their backup OB covers, you go into labour on the weekend turn up and here is an OB you have never met before. Happens here in Townsville all the time. (another reason they can give to inducea women during the week rather than introducing them to the other OB's in town). I understand why some might prefer inductions and c-sections when they are taking on 30 women a month they don't have the time to wait around and let women labour in their own time. They want some time off! Honey
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] another induction > I guess I'm having difficulty with the terms. "Informed them later" means they > weren't told right at the time they started the contract with the mw, right? > Surely it would not be difficult to book all holidays at least 9 mos ahead of > time so that people know if you'll be in town or not? I only take on Conference > speaking if I know at least one year ahead for that reason. I agree that mws > need to take very good care of themselves and rejuvenate body and soul, but I > don't get why the client can't be told before the first visit "I'll be away when > you are due. I have someone I trust who will be covering my practice so if you'd > like to get your prenatal care with me, I'll introduce the covering mw to you at > the end of your pregnancy." That type of statement makes it clear from the > beginning what the plan is. I have the same impatience with drs who don't > inform their clients long ahead of time that they work in a group practice of 10 > other doctors. The woman doesn't stand a hope of getting the one that she sees > regularly so why pretend? Birthing women deserve to be informed of these silent > peculiarities so that they're not ambushed on the day the birth begins. > Gloria > > Quoting brendamanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Gloria, > > > > It is not 'lying' (definition: withholding or distorting truth) when a > > professional tells you up front what their plans are ! There is no lack of > > integrity in being honest. I know of 2 very prominent midwives who have done > > > > exactly what the OB mentioned in the original post did: went on hols after > > booking the client & informed them later that they'd have to find their own > > cover for the absent period! > > > > Once informed it's up to the client to decide whether she chooses to work > > with that caregiver for her pregnancy. She has a choice if she understand > > that the person she is dealing with has hols booked for the time she's due & > > > > she'll be cared for by the covering practitioner. > > We all have to have a life outside of work, as long as we are honest with > > our clients then it's up to them to make those decisions, that's what > > 'informed choice' is all about. If we never took leave we'd burn out in no > > time & as we are on call from 37 to 43 weeks for births, there is no time > > when we can book a complete month off without actually taking the end of the > > > > month before & the beginning of the month after off. > > > > IOL is another issue altogether & the outrage is indeed warranted, yet there > > > > is always a percentage of women who still expect IOL on demand. > > > > BM > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] another induction > > > > > > > When professionals disappoint and defraud their clientele, they have only > > > themselves to blame for the lack of respect and mistrust which arises in > > > the > > > public. > > > > > > Giving prenatal care to a woman when one is planning to be away at the > > > time of > > > her birth is simply lying. This kind of lack of integrity has a great > > > cost. > > > > > > Inducing for convenience of the practitioner is dangerous and unethical. I > > > think the outrage is warranted. Primum non nocere. > > > Gloria > > > > > > Quoting brendamanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >> Janet, > > >> > > >> This IOL for Drs going on holidays happens all the time ! I'm not saying > > >> it's > > >> right, just that it's very common. > > >> It's also very common to book women knowing that the OB will be on leave > > >> when > > >> she's due & a colleague will cover, but they usually tell the woman that > > >> this > > >> is the case. > > >> I'm not into defending Obs generally but they are entitled to a life. It > > >> is > > >> the usual routine & polite for them to schedule a meeting to introduce > > >> the > > >> covering OB to the woman so they've met at least once prior to the birth > > >> though. > > >> > > >> Don't despair, midwives do it too................as a group we aren't > > >> above > > >> reproach ! > > >> Brenda > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Janet Fraser > > >> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:10 PM > > >> Subject: [ozmidwifery] another induction > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi all, > > >> a woman I know has been asked by her OB if she will consent to be > > >> induced > > >> at 39 weeks (ie right now) because he's going away. Yes, you read it > > >> right. > > >> He took on a client knowing he was going to be away when she came to the > > >> end > > >> of her pregnancy OR he decided to go away after taking her on - either is > > >> appalling. I've sent her Henci Goer on induction along with my outrage > > >> and > > >> suggestion that she complain about him officially. > > >> I'm so enraged by it. I'm just livid! What other branch of medicine > > >> would > > >> this happen in??? > > >> Sigh. Roll on the medicare stuff and proper care for women and babies. > > >> J < - almost despairing but not quite... > > >> Joyous Birth > > >> Home Birth Forum - a world first! > > >> http://www.joyousbirth.info/forums/ > > >> > > >> Accessing Artemis > > >> Birth Trauma Recovery > > >> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/accessingartemis > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.