Vedrana,
And you still have a sense of humour ! What a woman !
What needs to happen to change things then ?
Brenda
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From: "Vedrana Valčić" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: shoulder dysticia
You'd be inspired by my birth story then, as well ;). Ended up with a torn
cervix when the obstetrician decided that they must finish "this birth
because it is taking too long" even though the baby was fine. Used vacuum
extraction and another obstetrician who practically laid on my belly with
all his weight.
I'd say that in almost all Croatian hospitals, there is no waiting. And
midwives don't have the university degree (they only have high-school
education) which means that an OB always has to be there when you give
birth and midwives aren't independent at all.
As for the hospitals, it is similar to what Paivi described and I can
totally understand her when she says that it feels almost unfair to
educate and train moms for a natural birth, when you know what's waiting
for them in the hospital.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:55 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: shoulder dysticia
I'm glad that you are using my article. I just sat down and wrote it out
one
day in a fit of impatience at hearing another story about a primip section
with
a swollen lip. I get email from U.S. physicians on a pretty regular basis
that
they are working with the article and having great results. Usually it's
during
the midnight to 6 a.m. shift and with a collaborating nurse. Bit by bit,
we may
be able to retrain in the art of primip pushing. Gloria
Quoting Vedrana Valèiæ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Wow, this article is a revelation for me, as well as articles by Henci
Goer
(from someone else's posts before). For anyone as interested, the link is
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/articles/pushing.asp and articles by Henci
Goer
are at http://www.hencigoer.com/articles/.
Vedrana
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Westbury
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:02 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: shoulder dysticia
I agree with gloria in this. Actually I give all my first time mums your
article "pushing for first time moms"
Sally Westbury
Homebirth Midwife
"Learn from mothers and babies; every one of them has a unique story to
tell. Look for wisdom in the humblest places - that's usually where
you'll find it."
- Lois Wilson
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