Congratulations, Andrea, way to go!  What's that old quotation? ? "A good ob has
a big broad behind and knows how to put his hands under it and sit on them!"  We
could apply that to mws, too.  Love Gloria

Quoting Andrea Quanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Threads like this come back to haunt you. Last night I cared for a 
> primip who I took over on night duty as she was about to enter second 
> stage after having laboured all day and having had no sleep the night 
> before.  Given lots of time she progressed very slowly to having the 
> head distending the peri and there it sat through several contractions 
> with no further progress despite maternal effort ( and yes I did think 
> oh no hear goes I'm going to have to eat my words and cut an epis. I 
> looked at the scissors and decided to leave them where they were and 
> listen to the FH instead which was strong. Then her body decided that 
> it needed a rest and we sat for about 15 min with no contractions and 
> listening to the FH while she slept. Then she woke up had one 
> contraction where she birthed the head over an intact peri and a second 
> soon after which birthed the body before she lay back and said that all 
> I had to give!  What more did she need. I had a student with me who was 
> completely baffled and we spent quite some time afterwards discussing 
> what had just happened because that had never been in anything she had 
> heard or read.
> 
> One very happy mum and one midwife with her stats intact!!!!!!!
> 
> Andrea Quanchi
> On 22/08/2005, at 11:35 PM, Katrina Flora wrote:
> 
> > Not entirely sure I want to know, but Mary what is "buttonholing"?
> >  
> > Katrina
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Mary Murphy
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:03 AM
> >> Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] when to cut an episiotomy
> >>
> >> Because you asked:  I have cut 3 in 22 yrs as a homebirth midwife.  1 
> >> for foetal distress, 1 for “buttonholing’ & the other I can’t 
> >> remember.  It was all so long ago.  Working with a group of 7 other 
> >> midwives, I have never heard of them cutting episiotomies either. MM
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >>  Who else would like to celebrate their lack of desire or interest in 
> >> cutting a woman's perineum.
> >>
> >>
> 


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