I think the utter relief after giving birth and the euphoria and oxytocin running through your body with a wet warm baby on your belly can be likened to orgasm - except BETTER!
Cheers Jo x -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2005 11:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births PS I have a very dear friend who says that her labour WAS orgasmic - while I can't (unfortunately) claim the same, there was definitely a sexual/sensual aspect to it Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Cudlipp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Men at births > Ah but they don't think that sex and childbirth are related!! > Thanks for making me smile > Sue > "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do > nothing" > Edmund Burke > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:20 PM > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births > > > Noises during birth ARE similar to sex I think...not that I eaves drop > that often! ;o) I think when people think of birthing positions and > facial expressions not being 'ladylike' I often want to say "it doesn't > seem to bother people at the other end of the equation! -being > conception!" > > Thanks to cosmo and cleo we can now all feel comfortable with orgasim > and the such...saw the headline for an article called "heads up on going > down" gawd even made me blush! But when it comes to birth we are far > more comfortable with the quiet well behaved serene woman. Just think, > the lay back and think of england sex of years gone by has changed to be > empowering, fulfilling and active....but birth has so far to go! > > Jo > SA > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miriam Hannay > Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:49 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Men at births > > > I'm with you, Megan! > To give birth to a beloved child is the ultimate > expression of the emotional and sexual love my husband > and I share. > > He described me during labour and birth as being > 'awesome, powerful, sexy, strong, more beautiful than > ever before'. He even commented that the involuntary > noises I made during birth were similar to the noises > I make during orgasm! > > Obviously, such an experience relies on the nature of > the birth itself, We had three babes at home and one > in hospital, all beautiful physiological births with > no intervention. > > With regard retaining your 'sexual mystery', I'm not > quite sure what there is about sex and sexuality > that's 'mysterious'. If a couple's sexual relationship > is open, honest, loving and passionate, does there > need to be any 'mystery'? To me this smacks a little > of patriarchal notions of women's role as sexual > object... Gee, I hope my husband doesn't find anything > about me mysterious after fourteen years, otherwise > how would he know what I need and desire?! > > What would be fantastic for men would be for all > practitioners to actively facilitate a role for them > during the birth process that makes them feel involved > and reflects the extraordinary beauty of the > experience. If only... regards, Miriam. > > --- Megan & Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Its interesting how the conversation focuses on the >> womans vagina. >> What about the rest of her body? >> My husband loved the feeling of my muscles working >> in my body, he says they >> have been different for each birth. >> The last 3 were water births, so no vagina watching >> by any one. >> Speaking on his behalf, I know that he was and is so >> awe inspired by >> watching me have our babies, it only added to his >> desire and love. >> So I guess the total experience of how women birth >> is what we are looking >> at. No surprises there! >> The book, I think titled, Father Time, which is a >> collection of interviews >> of Australain men, discusses this and the men who >> experienced homebirths >> very clearly did not experience the trauma. >> >> I'm not sure about this "sexual mystery" thing >> though. As a woman I take >> great pride in having a uterus, vagina and breasts >> that have created and >> given life 4 times, its not all about "toys for >> boys". >> (Although having 4 sons kind of retracts that >> statement) >> >> My thoughts anyway >> Megan >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Andrea Robertson >> Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2005 10:26 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Men at births >> >> This is an interesting report in today's Sydney >> Morning Herald. I remember >> Michel Odent talking about research done in the US >> that explored the effect >> on a couple's sexual relationship when the man had >> been exposed to the birth >> process. Michel was advocating that women might want >> to retain some of their >> "sexual mystery" by excluding men from the birth >> room. I have been at births >> where I wondered how the father was taking the sight >> of a practitioner >> cutting an episiotomy..... >> >> What does everyone think about this? >> >> > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/08/30/1125302566185.html >> >> Regards, >> >> Andrea >> >> ----- >> Andrea Robertson >> Birth International * ACE Graphics * Associates in >> Childbirth Education >> >> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> web: www.birthinternational.com >> >> >> -- >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe >> or unsubscribe. >> >> -- >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe >> or unsubscribe. >> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: > 8/30/2005 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.17/85 - Release Date: > 8/30/2005 > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 31/08/2005 > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/86 - Release Date: 31/08/2005 > > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. 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