Thanks for the conference update! Fantastic that the against team won! At 10:21 PM +0000 16/9/05, wump fish wrote: >If we stop defying nature we would be having babies from our teens until our >menopause. Drs would be out of a job because we would not be meddling in >nature (illness and death) with medicine and operations. > >Women make reproductive choices based on their own individual circumstances. >They can't win. If they have a baby at the physically 'best' time they are >irresponsible teen mothers. If they wait until they have a reliable partner >and the means to comfortably support their family they are selfish and 'want >it all'. > >Maybe we should stop judging and focus on creating a society which supports >all kinds of parenthood. > >We had our babies young and spent their childhood struggling to make ends >meet, study and get careers. It would have been much easier to wait until I >was past my sell by date. > >Rachel > >ps. the Wesley Conference re. c-section the way of the future, was fantastic. >Very interesting and inspiring. In a nutshell - First speaker talked about >'fetal surveilance' and I phased out after he got excited about the concept of >taking the fetus out of the womb to 'examine' it. He had clearly forgotten >that babies grow inside women. Second speaker = labour is generally better for >baby as opposed to an elective c-section. Third speaker = the state of your >pelvic floor has very little to do with birth (genetics, weight and >lifestyle). Fourth speaker = Denis Walsh fighting the corner for midwifery led >care. The debate was very entertaining and the 'against' team won, ie. >c-section is not the way of the future. Dr David Molloy was on the 'for' team >- what a horrible little man. > > >>From: Jennifairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] >>Subject: [ozmidwifery] another fyi... >>Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 19:07:00 +0930 >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4248244.stm >> >>Delaying babies 'defies nature' >>*Women who wait until their late 30s to have children are defying nature and >>risking heartbreak, leading obstetricians have warned. * >> >>Over the last 20 years pregnancies in women over 35 have risen markedly and >>the average age of mothers has gone up. >> >>Writing in the British Medical Journal, the London-based fertility >>specialists say they are "saddened" by the number of women they see who have >>problems. >> >>They say the best age for pregnancy remains 20 to 35. >> >>Over the last 20 years the average age for a woman to have their first baby >>has risen from 26 to 29. >> >> >> * The message that needs to go out is 'don't leave it too late' * >>Peter Bowen-Simpkins, Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists >> >>The specialists, led by Dr Susan Bewley, who treats women with high-risk >>pregnancies at Guy's and St Thomas' Hospital, warned age-related fertility >>problems increase after 35 and dramatically after 40. >> >>Other experts said it was right to remind women not to leave it too late. >> >>* 'Having it all' * >> >>In the BMJ, the specialists write: "Paradoxically, the availability of IVF >>may lull women into infertility while they wait for a suitable partner and >>concentrate on their careers and achieving security and a comfortable living >>standard." >> >>But they warn IVF treatment carries no guarantees - with a high failure rate >>and extra risks of multiple pregnancies where it is successful. >> >>For men, there are also risks in waiting until they are older to father >>children as semen counts deteriorate with age, they say. >> >>Once an older woman does become pregnant, she runs a greater risk of >>miscarriage, foetal and chromosomal abnormalities, and pregnancy-related >>diseases. >> >>They add: "Women want to 'have it all' but biology is unchanged. >> >>"Their delays may reflect disincentives to earlier pregnancy or maybe an >>underlying resistance to childbearing as, despite the advantages brought >>about by feminism and equal opportunities legislation, women still bear full >>domestic burdens as well as work and financial responsibilities." >> >> >> * The best time to have a baby is up to 35. It always was, and always >> will be * >>Dr Susan Bewley >> >>Dr Bewley told the BBC News website: "We are saddened because we are dealing >>with people who can't get pregnant or are having complications. >> >>"Most women playing 'Russian Roulette' get away with it, most people are >>fine. But I see the casualties. >> >>"The best time to have a baby is up to 35. It always was, and always will be. >> >>She added: "I don't want to blame women, or make them feel anxious or >>frightened. >> >>"The reasons for these difficulties lie not with women but with a distorted >>an uninformed view from society, employers, and health planners. >> >>"Doctors and healthcare planners need to grasp this threat to public health >>and support women to achieve biologically optimal childbirth. >> >>"Where we can, we should be helping women to have children earlier." >> >> >> >>HAVE YOUR SAY >>*The choice is still clear, have a career or have children late. I would >>advise other women to leave it and take the gamble * >>Victoria Finney, Brighton >> >>Clare Brown, Chief Executive of Infertility Network UK, said "Delaying having >>children until you are in your thirties is a choice many people make but they >>need to be aware of the added problems when trying to conceive, particularly >>over the age of 35 when a woman's natural fertility declines. >> >>"When this is exacerbated by a further complication such as blocked tubes or >>low sperm count the chances of a successful pregnancy even using IVF are much >>less." >> >>Peter Bowen-Simpkins, of the Royal College of Obstetricians and >>Gynaecologists, said: "The biological clock is one thing we cannot reverse or >>change. >> >>"The message that needs to go out is 'don't leave it too late'." >> >>Story from BBC NEWS: >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/4248244.stm >> >>Published: 2005/09/15 23:08:39 GMT >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.24/101 - Release Date: 13/09/2005 >> >>-- >>This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >>Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN Search Toolbar now includes Desktop search! >http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ > >-- >This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
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